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Unsolved Mystery Book6 Lord Raith
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Rasins on November 10, 2017, 02:47:33 PM ---I still haven't worked out the thralldom part, but Yeah, baseballs aren't so bad. Harry survived and thrived AND learned the lesson.
Leah has a point in her training of Molly.
I imagine that Justin knew he had a short time to get these starborn trained.
Remember that he also used baseball as a reward for Harry lighting his fire.
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I've said it before, but I think along similar lines. I think Justin's hand was forced, and he went from "I need to toughen these kids up for the upcoming fight" to "I know they won't listen to me, and they need to fight NOW."
I think Justin was getting ready to run.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Kindler on November 10, 2017, 08:38:42 PM ---I've said it before, but I think along similar lines. I think Justin's hand was forced, and he went from "I need to toughen these kids up for the upcoming fight" to "I know they won't listen to me, and they need to fight NOW."
I think Justin was getting ready to run.
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As a warlock you must always be ready to run.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: Avernite on November 09, 2017, 08:06:29 PM ---'rough means' as in thralldom? Still a bad guy.
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Harry and Molly practice mind magic by invading each other's minds. How do you know Justin wasn't enthralling Elaine so she could learn to fight it with her full knowledge and consent? Or maybe Elaine had been nemfected and Justin enthralled her so he could cure her?
And doesn't it seem odd that Harry was able to defeat an accomplished warden while an enthralled apprentice was able to escape? I think Justin died because he used his last moments to save Elaine's life by opening a way to the NN and pushing her through. That is how Elaine ended up with the Summer Court and why Harry could never find her.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Cozarkian on November 10, 2017, 09:49:20 PM ---Harry and Molly practice mind magic by invading each other's minds.
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Harry and Molly did not enthrall each other and they did not invade each others mind.
--- Quote ---How do you know Justin wasn't enthralling Elaine so she could learn to fight it with her full knowledge and consent?
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Because he tried to enthrall Harry as well? Because being enthralled does not help with anything, ask Luccio.
--- Quote ---Or maybe Elaine had been nemfected and Justin enthralled her so he could cure her?
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Why infect an apprentice? Nemesis is usually more picky than that.
--- Quote ---And doesn't it seem odd that Harry was able to defeat an accomplished warden while an enthralled apprentice was able to escape?
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Justin underestimated Harry. Elaine could escape because Harry killed Justin.
--- Quote ---I think Justin died because he used his last moments to save Elaine's life by opening a way to the NN and pushing her through. That is how Elaine ended up with the Summer Court and why Harry could never find her.
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In ghost story Harry tells about Justin and Lea agrees with him. I think that was conclusive enough. Justin was one of the bad guys. He would not save Elaine if his own life was on the line.
wardenferry419:
--- Quote from: Cozarkian on November 10, 2017, 09:49:20 PM ---Harry and Molly practice mind magic by invading each other's minds. How do you know Justin wasn't enthralling Elaine so she could learn to fight it with her full knowledge and consent? Or maybe Elaine had been nemfected and Justin enthralled her so he could cure her?
And doesn't it seem odd that Harry was able to defeat an accomplished warden while an enthralled apprentice was able to escape? I think Justin died because he used his last moments to save Elaine's life by opening a way to the NN and pushing her through. That is how Elaine ended up with the Summer Court and why Harry could never find her.
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I am going to, respectfully, disagree with you here. Justin does not deserve noble memories.
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