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Nicodemus wants to be God
groinkick:
--- Quote from: jonas on November 05, 2017, 08:04:05 PM ---Not at all, imagine if Thomas's other half were born through/into him, would he cease being a mortal? or would an immortal being be 'born' into our world? Which means it's less to do with having a 'mortal' underneath and more to do with belonging to reality proper, which by proxy would seem to make one entirely mortal here sans an immortal existence elsewhere simultaneously.
On a (presumed offhand) scale,
1Mortals
2Gods who gave up true immortality to dwell here(Odin/Norse)
3Gods who dwell in the NN but are still of here(fae queens)
4Gods purely of the NN, spiritual deity
5Angels, Those who exist beyond.
6Archangels, those who exist both beyond and here at the same level
4-6 seem to also house various levels of outsiders though.... *sigh* i'm still working on this obviously. The why forths are holding me back as I can't directly see define the differences between certain groups. Some of them I can presume at and some of them would rely on building up a whole explanation/theory into and of itself.
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Well it comes down to if these angels were elevated from the mortal realm. If they did, you're right. If they did not, you're not. I don't know of woj that puts it firmly on either side.
jonas:
--- Quote from: groinkick on November 05, 2017, 08:16:29 PM ---Well it comes down to if these angels were elevated from the mortal realm. If they did, you're right. If they did not, you're not. I don't know of woj that puts it firmly on either side.
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Yep, only example I can give is if Lash became the Reaper in GS from existing as part of Harry. Which quite besides this theory is one I put weight behind.(although I prefer Susan myself, the blackness of her representing a metaphor for the tattoo's that helped hold hersefl together in life)
wardenferry419:
So, the idea is heavily favored that the reaper in GS is someone familar to Harry, like Lash or someone else who died? Might make for a good poll?
Rasins:
I think we've discussed this before, but ...
If you'll recall, the circle in MacFinn's townhouse was actually three in one circles.
One for purely mortal beings.
One for purely spiritual beings.
One for a mix of mortal and spiritual beings.
I'm thinking someone with an iron will COULD contain Uriel in such a circle.
Avernite:
--- Quote from: Rasins on November 06, 2017, 05:26:24 PM ---I think we've discussed this before, but ...
If you'll recall, the circle in MacFinn's townhouse was actually three in one circles.
One for purely mortal beings.
One for purely spiritual beings.
One for a mix of mortal and spiritual beings.
I'm thinking someone with an iron will COULD contain Uriel in such a circle.
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How, though? I don't think Uriel is like Mab or the Erlking in that he has to answer a summons. So he can just glance at the circle, think 'ah no' and appear outside it.
Or he can just use your Name and make you release him.
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