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Will Harry meet the real Maeve?
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Arjan on November 02, 2017, 10:16:39 PM ---We do not have that many nemesis cases and not one of them after dead. But we can discuss analogies and we have some evidence about body, spirit and soul.
Remember that soul and spirit are connected but different things. Corrupting a spirit is easier than corrupting the soul but someone with a corrupted spirit will probably make decisions that change his soul.
And we do have Harry and when he died the things changed by Lash did not suddenly disappear. Corpstaker was still a blackened warlock and so on. We know Nemesis can change a persons nature and that means their spirit.
So it stands to reason that if a person sufficiently changed by Nemesis died that person is not suddenly free from what Nemesis did to his spirit because Nemesis changes your spirit.
Moreover as Lea made clear in ghost story the Sidhe live in both worlds, the body and the spiritual. A mere change in mind without a change in spirit would not have fooled her.
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Have to disagree, but to each his own.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: groinkick on November 03, 2017, 04:09:15 AM ---Have to disagree, but to each his own.
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It was Lea who learned Harry to look at his spiritual memories to see his memories as they really were and not how they were often incorrectly stored in his brain. Ghost story.
The Sidhe are for a big part spiritual beings living in the spirit world with one foot here. A mere change in the brain is not enough.
wardenferry419:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on November 03, 2017, 12:19:53 AM ---What if he didn't say "I love you" to Susan, who then tries to kill him, neglects to because of the poison in his bloodstream, and instead kills Justine? And then Harry chooses to leave the newly turned Susan with Bianca, thus avoiding war and buying himself time to try and find a cure?
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And, if the war is delayed then Simon might exist in the alternative reality. If Simon did exist then Harry, as one of the few to intereact with Cowl, might connect Simon with Cowl.
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on November 03, 2017, 12:19:53 AM ---What if he didn't say "I love you" to Susan, who then tries to kill him, neglects to because of the poison in his bloodstream, and instead kills Justine? And then Harry chooses to leave the newly turned Susan with Bianca, thus avoiding war and buying himself time to try and find a cure?
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I can get behind something like that; I was thinking the choice was "I'm not going to go back for Susan because I'll die" or something similar.
I think that the choice might be one that is based on unintended consequences; Harry makes a choice that should be better because it conforms to a higher ideal of right and wrong, but walking the Light path causes long-term Darkness. Harry willingly does the hard thing, the stuff that isn't heroic, because Good is Not Nice. Like beating the tar out of Cassius to get the information he needed. Kind of making a what-if scenario, one Harry might've second-guessed frequently ("If only I hadn't used the Sword," "If only I hadn't drunk the wine," "If only I had listened to Thomas,"), but ultimately proving that the choice that looks wrong wound up turning out for the best. Does that make sense to anyone else?
--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on November 03, 2017, 07:52:49 AM ---And, if the war is delayed then Simon might exist in the alternative reality. If Simon did exist then Harry, as one of the few to intereact with Cowl, might connect Simon with Cowl.
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Well yeah, I'm definitely behind that. One of the things I think is certainly going to have happened in Mirror, Mirror is that the war was delayed, and wound up way more devastating to the White Council because of it. Simon living through it isn't something I'd considered.
Well... dang. Ebenezer isn't on the Senior Council in that case. So Molly... hmm. That's a big, bad ripple effect.
Rasins:
Yeah, I get it Kindler, but I'm thinking it's a decision, a big decision, that we see, and that makes sense in the circumstances. Like at the end to let Susan go and not start the war.
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