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Knight Ceremony [Cold Case Spoilers]
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Bacchus on October 27, 2017, 05:50:35 PM ---small thing
i disagree.
The books show us that there have been a few hundred years of bad recruits and Mab is far too intelligent for that to be something she didn't want.
My thoughts are that the stuff about her own knight being a threat to her is true. Knights focused on drugs or rape wouldn't be any threat to her, and until now she didn't need a powerful knight or a loyal winter lady.
Mab Knows that Ragnarök is coming and over the last decade or so it seems quite clear to me that shes been preparing for the war to end all wars.
side theory now it seems to me that mab has delt with both winter ladys, her handmaiden and winter knight and destroyed the red court id say Titania needs to be delt with next. shes obviously too unstable and depressed to lead the summer fay into war, she would be a massive liability.
also with Harry's mysterious and powerful lineage and his starborness. There are all kinds of interesting plot lines Jim could come up with for Mab wanting a child with Dresden. Also we didn't see Mab for at least 9 months after she knighted harry and when we did she was visibly weakened and fay have showed a strong desire to have a child with Dresden before. Id say he most likely has a changeling child out there with Mab
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There's a Word of Jim somewhere that Harry won't have any more of his own kids show up, so if that's the case, I don't think we'll ever see him or her. (Though he shortly thereafter revealed the first line of Peace Talks that indicates (click to show/hide)Thomas and Justine are having a baby to screw with us.)
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: ~Shadow~ on October 27, 2017, 04:41:38 PM ---Of course the Queen(s) can kill their own Knight, that was why Harry was investigating them in the first place.
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Which is precisely why Aurora killed the Summer Knight, right? Oh wait, never mind, she made a deal with the Winter Knight to have him kill the Summer Knight, which would be completely pointless and unnecessary if she was capable of doing it herself.
dspringer1:
I think there might be only two real requriements to get the winter mantle.
1) A queen who is holding the mantle's power decides to make you the winter knight
2) you accept.
My guess is that Lilly was tricked into accepting, but acceptance was pretty darn important to Mab which implies it is a critical step.
The only certainties are:
It cannot require killing the old knight -- as knights die in battle
It cannot require sex as the ladies cannot engage in sex, but can clearly can create knights
It does not require physical presence as harry became the night while his body physically resided in the church
It does require the action of a queen
The night must be mortal (guess, but believe it is solid)
dspringer1:
I do not think the fact that Aurora used Slate to kill the summer knight proves anything conclusive. I can think of several good reasons to do so even if Aurora could kill the her own knight.
1) It allows Aurora to honestly say "neither I nor anyone of summer was involved in this murder"
2) It tied Slate more closely to her cause
3) It emotionally distances her from the killing -- after all she probably knew the summer knight for decades and she probably considered him a friend. As she was wack-a-doodle and a fanatic, she killed him anyway, but that does not mean she did not feel some guilt.
4) Any evidence left at the scene would point to winter
5) It is possible that Ruhl might have been able to get out a warning to Titania if he was attacked by Aurora. But attacks by his winter knight counterpart are somewhat normal business.
Bacchus:
--- Quote ---There's a Word of Jim somewhere that Harry won't have any more of his own kids show up, so if that's the case, I don't think we'll ever see him or her.
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oh ... well I obviously didn't know about that WOJ and that pretty much kills my whole theory on that. Thanks for correcting me , now I have no idea what the sex scene was about.
maybe some show of dominance or that she owns him but that doesn't really seem right to me. Maybe having boinked a fae queen will help him in some weird way or allow her to make the knight bond stronger than is normal? i guess body fluids have all types of thaumaturgy uses for tracking and killing people and she has his semen (probably?) but its more her style to just stab him and take some blood.
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