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Mirror Mirror Knights of the Cross

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Kindler:

--- Quote from: dspringer1 on October 10, 2017, 04:41:08 PM ---I just do not see Marcone being a knight.  He may play a critical role, but part of who Marcone is -- is a crime boss.  I cannot image a crime boss being a knight of the cross.

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I see your point, and I agree that he's a terrible choice as he is now. I'd argue redemption: it happened for Sanya, and it can happen for Marcone. The question, to me, is whether or not him picking up a Sword would make for a better story. I don't know if that would be the case.

isoycrazy:
Murphy was a good candidate for the Sword because of her Faith in Justice.  One of Jesus' disciples was on a path to attack Jesus before his moment on the road to Damascus.

If, and this could be key, Persephone is saved, if He heals that girl via the Replacement Shroud, it could be a transformative moment for Marcone. 

Kindler:

--- Quote from: isoycrazy on October 10, 2017, 06:43:26 PM ---Murphy was a good candidate for the Sword because of her Faith in Justice.  One of Jesus' disciples was on a path to attack Jesus before his moment on the road to Damascus.

If, and this could be key, Persephone is saved, if He heals that girl via the Replacement Shroud, it could be a transformative moment for Marcone.

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Makes me wonder if Listens-to-Wind could do something for her.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: isoycrazy on October 10, 2017, 06:43:26 PM ---If, and this could be key, Persephone is saved, if He heals that girl via the Replacement Shroud, it could be a transformative moment for Marcone.

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Effectively, she's in the same boat Harry was in during Ghost Story - her soul isn't "at home" any more, but her body is still alive. If she hasn't fallen victim to lemurs or wraiths, or chosen to cross over, it probably wouldn't actually take miracle-level mojo to get reunite her with her body.

Assuming her wandering soul could be found and brought to her hospital, it's really just a less 'fresh' case of the same problem Mort Lindquist solved for Butters by reuniting him with his body after Corpsetaker displaced him from it. More ideal conditions (prep time, and approaching it not having just been strung up and tortured for the best part of a day) would probably compensate for her having been out-of-body so much longer.

Heck, if he applied some thought to the problem, I'd argue it's even within Harry's technical capability. He has all the necessary pieces since first encountering Persephone, between his greater understanding of death from GS, his experience with necromancy in raising Sue, and probably a trace of soulfire to connect with Persephone's real actual soul instead of just a spirit. Sure, he'd be skirting the edges of the necromancy law again, but if her soul is still wandering and her body isn't actually dead, she's not technically "beyond the borders of life".

isoycrazy:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on October 11, 2017, 02:36:44 AM ---Effectively, she's in the same boat Harry was in during Ghost Story - her soul isn't "at home" any more, but her body is still alive. If she hasn't fallen victim to lemurs or wraiths, or chosen to cross over, it probably wouldn't actually take miracle-level mojo to get reunite her with her body.

Assuming her wandering soul could be found and brought to her hospital, it's really just a less 'fresh' case of the same problem Mort Lindquist solved for Butters by reuniting him with his body after Corpsetaker displaced him from it. More ideal conditions (prep time, and approaching it not having just been strung up and tortured for the best part of a day) would probably compensate for her having been out-of-body so much longer.

Heck, if he applied some thought to the problem, I'd argue it's even within Harry's technical capability. He has all the necessary pieces since first encountering Persephone, between his greater understanding of death from GS, his experience with necromancy in raising Sue, and probably a trace of soulfire to connect with Persephone's real actual soul instead of just a spirit. Sure, he'd be skirting the edges of the necromancy law again, but if her soul is still wandering and her body isn't actually dead, she's not technically "beyond the borders of life".

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Jim has said Harry will break each law in one form or another.  If raising Sue didn't break the necromancy law, playing fast and close to this grey area in bringing back a coma patient might qualify.

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