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Mirror Mirror Knights of the Cross
dspringer1:
The idea of Marcone being redeemed is interesting. I just do not see it occurring in Mirror Mirror. If it occurs, it will be in the core universe.
Cozarkian:
I like Murphy, I could see her picking up the sword earlier to bring justice to -Harry.
--- Quote from: dspringer1 on October 11, 2017, 01:54:16 PM ---The idea of Marcone being redeemed is interesting. I just do not see it occurring in Mirror Mirror. If it occurs, it will be in the core universe.
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Could be that Harry realizes Marxone have a good heart and is inspired to help redeem him.
ebliss1:
I don't think Marcone has become a Knight of the Cross in the Mirror Universe. I think that if things played out as they did in Death Masks without Harry's involvement, Marcone would have been going up against the Denarians directly. Even with Gard there to advise and help, he doesn't stand a chance against Nic and his gang. I think Nic gets hold of Marcone, and gives him the choice: pick up Lasciel's Coin or die. Marcone is a pragmatist and a survivor, so he'd eventually say yes.
Now, Nic having access to Marcone's criminal empire is one thing that is likely to keep Nic occupied and distracted, but Marcone is no weakling and I think Jim's use of the word "interesting" comes into play here. Marcone, similar to our Harry, resists Lasciel's influence. It's not a willing partnership like with Nic and Andurel, it's very much a contest for control between those two. I'd imagine they reach a sort of stalemate where Marcone can hold her off mostly, but she starts playing a long, subtle, waiting game for eventual control. When our Harry shows up, it all goes out the window when Marcone sees proof positive that the Fallen can be rejected and cast out (I doubt he ever talks with Sanya to learn how he got rid of Magog, and I doubt the Denarians would advertise it), while on Lasciel's side, she flips out when she sees proof positive that a mere mortal can defeat her, as Harry did in our universe. A moment like that would be a perfect time for the two of them to finally throw down. Having Harry tell the story of how Sanya divested himself of Magog and became a Knight as a result could give Marcone the necessary strength to follow in Sanya's footsteps and cast Lasciel aside and pick up one of the Swords.
Romulan Cmdr:
this is going straight off the TOS Mirror Mirror premise so lots of bad stuff.
So the real question is at which point did Harry make the different choice in Grave Peril.
There are so many points in the mid to latter part of the books.
Was it during the initial ball and face off or later when he had to chose whether to give up his GF and avoid the war or not? The delay of the start of the War and all that it affected would've started his downward spiral.
Foxed:
I'm pretty sure it's Marcone. Take Harry out of Death Masks and suddenly it's a straightforward Marcone v. Old Nick. Shiri sacrifices himself to save Marcone, and this completely floors him. End of the day, Marcone lets Michael have the Shroud, but Michael lets Marcone take a day to use it first.
This positions the beginning of a redemptive arc for Marcone. Perhaps, given Harry's absence during Death Masks (or Harry's inability to help Old Nick pull it off), Old Nick throws a Coin at Marcone.
Think about it: even Marcone would stop a kid from picking up a Coin. Boom. A further move towards Knighthood. Because Marcone won't be beholden to a demon, he struggles and frees himself of the Coin, finally giving it up to Michael. And that's when Michael considers Marcone for Knighthood. Perhaps the experience teaches Marcone to think about Knighthood himself. In the main universe, he created the BFS to protect his territory in Chicago from baddies. He becomes legitimate-ish in the DF-verse, why not in the MM-verse? Maybe he can clean those bloody hands.
See how easy that is? How in character? And I'm not even the professional.
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