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Was Ascher telling the truth?

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forumghost:

--- Quote from: Arjan on December 09, 2017, 06:46:08 AM ---But a state does not hide. It claims territory and authority over people in a clear visible way. Terrorist organisations and criminal gangs hide.

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Criminal gangs and Cable companies ALSO claim territory and authority over people in a clearly visible way in some areas, but that doesn't make them states.

The White Council has existed in it's current state since (iirc) before the fall of Rome, as a International Power.

If anything, their relative age and power would make them the legitimate state by the right of 'here first suckaz', and other nations the criminals trying to take their territory.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: forumghost on December 09, 2017, 11:08:43 AM ---Criminal gangs and Cable companies ALSO claim territory and authority over people in a clearly visible way in some areas, but that doesn't make them states.

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Necessary but not sufficient condition.

--- Quote ---The White Council has existed in it's current state since (iirc) before the fall of Rome, as a International Power.

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More like a secret society. You could make a youtube conspiracy video about them.

--- Quote ---If anything, their relative age and power would make them the legitimate state by the right of 'here first suckaz', and other nations the criminals trying to take their territory.

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They made no visible claim. No flag, signpost, travel documents, international relations with other states here on earth, ....

wardenferry419:
I think that the WC is trying to balance out their place between two worlds, the mortal and the supernatural.

Mira:

--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on December 09, 2017, 08:47:21 PM ---I think that the WC is trying to balance out their place between two worlds, the mortal and the supernatural.

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I think it more about finding themselves less relevant in a modern world, the time of the village wise woman or man has past.   Kids who show signs of talent no longer have any place to go or any knowledge of what it all means.  All they know is they have these cool talents and like normal kids everywhere they experiment with them and get into trouble.  Meanwhile the WC has been decimated by wars over the last thousand years and have spent their time navel gazing unlike Harry who has attempted to fit into the modern world openly as a practicing wizard.   As a result, zero tolerance has evolved into not just being the safest course for both worlds but the easiest to implement.  But as we all know zero tolerance policies are seriously flawed because there isn't a one size fits all and justice usually isn't served by it... But those those who advocate it will argue, it keeps everyone safe so it doesn't matter that perhaps a few talented babies who might make great wizards someday are thrown out with the bath water.

wardenferry419:
The Paranet helps but the WC should expand it by hiring non-magic users to monitor the internet for  potentials.

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