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Was Ascher telling the truth?
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: Firestarter on December 16, 2017, 11:49:09 AM ---Well... the Wild West wasn't really the _Wild_ west we see in movies and read about in books.
But I guess I can see your point.
Also: "When you have 1 wizard, you have a wizard. With any higher number of wizards, you'll get an argument."
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I like that. A scourge of black vampires, an argument of Wizards.
wardenferry419:
I hadn't thought what you call a group of wizards; but, an argument seems appropriate, don't it? Most of your responses I have no problem with. The only one that got me was the Ben Kenobi comment. At most, I would chalk it up to grey magic. Harry did something similar in PG to a stressed cop after the con attack.
Mr. Death:
Better than on the Discworld, where the plural of wizards is "War".
Kindler:
I agree that the White Council needs much better PR.
The problem with the Wardens as an organization, I think, is that there aren't enough of them. The White Council is a global organization, and a few hundred Wardens to police things. You're talking one Warden per, what, fifteen, twenty million people? Considering that they like to work in teams when handling true threats, it's no wonder that they have such a terrifying reputation. They only show up when things are bad, and when they do show up, people die. They're like plague doctors, except, you know, plague doctors actually carried the disease from house to house on their clothes.
I think that the real issue is pretty much a matter of scale. They have such a limited number of assets that there is no prevention; they're not an acceptable deterrent, and the sheer size of humanity over the past century is making their job that much harder (it's quintupled). If they had enough Wardens to have two or three in each major city, even that might not be enough, but it'd be a start. They don't have a presence like cops do—the "cop on every street corner" proposal helped (though how much of an impact it had is debatable, considering it went into effect during an economic boom and at the tail end of a pretty dramatic demographic shift) on crime reduction. Police trust is higher where people know their local beat cops. It is my belief that people don't trust institutions by reflex; they trust people, and that trust may extend to their organization over time.
Their lack of notable presence directly led to the minor talents' willingness to believe that Wardens were murdering them in White Night, in my opinion; Wardens were faceless enforcers to them, not, you know, people.
As for Arjan's thoughts on the topic, I believe that any (and every) organization is susceptible to corruption and abuse, the Wardens included. Considering the numbers involved—again, numbering in the hundreds—it is perfectly possible to introduce additional oversight without hindering their ability to respond to threats.
I do think it's notable, however, that the only confirmed outlier that we've seen on page is Peabody, the one person who seemed least likely to be a backstabbing murderer.
Mira:
Okay, so the Wardens are the White Council's cops... They arrest and enforce the Laws of Magic... However they are not supposed to sit in judgement of would be law breakers, that is the Senior Council's job. With the wars and modern times both are spread pretty thin... Also there are good and bad Wardens, if they are took quick on the draw and a young would be warlock loses his or her head before trial, most in the Council look the other way, makes their job easier because they feel they don't have the time to waste on a kid that no one will put his or her own head on the line for and who is a lost cause anyway.. So from her perspective, Asher was telling the truth, if she has surrendered the odds of her keeping her head were not in her favor... The chances were also good that she would have lost her head before a trial was arranged in the first place with no questions asked..
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