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harry killed another mortal with magic in Cold days

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exartiem:
POV #1:  Harry did not specifically intend to kill.  He struck out at a magic beast that was attacking him.  He did think to himself "I'm going to slam him into the wall and break his neck."  He just lashed out and the result was the result.  Harry was given clemency with Justin because it was self-defense.

POV#2: The stain of killing with magic isn't necessarily dependent on intent.  Harry felt guilt when he realized he killed the kid.  If he begins to justify the act and thus reduce the guilt and making it easier to kill with magic in the future, then that is the slippery slope.

groinkick:
I don't think a person qualifies as mortal if taking part in the Wild Hunt.

Phariah:
he was in an altered state such as denarions. also self defense.

RobReece:

--- Quote from: exartiem on October 05, 2017, 03:50:19 PM ---POV #1:  Harry did not specifically intend to kill.  He struck out at a magic beast that was attacking him. He did think to himself "I'm going to slam him into the wall and break his neck."  He just lashed out and the result was the result.  Harry was given clemency with Justin because it was self-defense.

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He basically did just that, Harry didn't hit him from the side to push him away, he took his legs out.  At that speed, it's a kill shot.  However, he also didn't know at the time that he was killing a human and it was still self defense.

If he'd known that the beasts attacking were "masked" humans, could he have done something else?  Only Jim knows.  This could just become one of the deaths that sit on his conscience, like the kids burned up at Bianca's party and what's her name in FM.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: RobReece on October 06, 2017, 01:05:10 PM ---He basically did just that, Harry didn't hit him from the side to push him away, he took his legs out.  At that speed, it's a kill shot.  However, he also didn't know at the time that he was killing a human

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He still does not know.

--- Quote ---and it was still self defence.

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Not as relevant as some people seem to think. Being part of the wild hunt is probably more relevant.

--- Quote ---If he'd known that the beasts attacking were "masked" humans, could he have done something else?  Only Jim knows.  This could just become one of the deaths that sit on his conscience, like the kids burned up at Bianca's party and what's her name in FM.

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Conscience is different from the laws of magic as defined by the council which is different from how magic actually works.

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