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harry killed another mortal with magic in Cold days

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namkcas:
"and it was still self defence."

1 - Harry was put on double secret probation when he killed in self defense.  See Justin.
2 - Hannah Ascher was declared a Warlock for killing in self defense.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: namkcas on October 06, 2017, 07:27:18 PM ---"and it was still self defence."

1 - Harry was put on double secret probation when he killed in self defense.  See Justin.
2 - Hannah Ascher was declared a Warlock for killing in self defense.

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Harry had connections.

Paviel:

--- Quote ---Personally, I don't think someone who's shapeshifted + being driven by beast-like mental influence counts.
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Which reminds me of the Hexenwulf and the Loup-garou. I don't think Harry got any black marks on his soul for using a magical amulet infused with his will to strike the killing blow on MacFinn, for example. Thus, either infusing a piece of silver with your will and using it to kill doesn't count as using magic to kill, or a Loup-garou in wolf form doesn't count as a human. Or both.

And I'm pretty sure that infusing an object with your will for a specific purpose is the definition of using magic, and therefore what Harry did to MacFinn with his amulet in "Fool Moon" was using magic to kill.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: namkcas on October 06, 2017, 07:27:18 PM ---"and it was still self defence."

1 - Harry was put on double secret probation when he killed in self defense.  See Justin.
2 - Hannah Ascher was declared a Warlock for killing in self defense.

--- End quote ---

The wizards on the Council didn't believe Harry, but could not prove him a liar either.  That's why he was on probation.  Hannah was declared a warlock when she killed Wardens. 


--- Quote ---Harry had connections.

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Harry had a wizard to vouch for him, just as Harry vouched for Molly.  If Hannah had a wizard who would take responsibility to watch over her, she'd have been spared.

forumghost:

--- Quote from: groinkick on October 08, 2017, 06:01:15 PM ---The wizards on the Council didn't believe Harry, but could not prove him a liar either.  That's why he was on probation.  Hannah was declared a warlock when she killed Wardens. 

Harry had a wizard to vouch for him, just as Harry vouched for Molly.  If Hannah had a wizard who would take responsibility to watch over her, she'd have been spared.

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Before she killed any Wardens maybe. But when they went to bring her in for trial she acted like onw would expect someone being taken away for execution to act, because that's just what you assume will happen when Wardens come asking after you.

The White Council really needs a good PR consultant...

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