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Changes battle, we only saw the surface?

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groinkick:
In Changes, on the surface we saw Harry, and his band of friends fight the Red Court, save his daughter, and slay the Red Court.  This was all on the surface.  However I'm pretty sure there were possibly some things that happened off screen.  There was a lot of time that Harry was not with his allies, meaning they could have been doing their own thing.

First who was invested in this fight?

TWG - KoTC involved
Mab - Her right hand was there
Grey Council/probably White Council Senior members
Venatori?  Thomas was there as Harry's brother but I would not be at all surprised if he was also there in an official capacity for the Venatori
Odin  - He plans way far out in advance.  He recognized the importance of this conflict and got involved...  It was a big deal
Blackstaff was there

I know I know some will think that Eb abuses his position or whatever.  However he may have also been there not only to help Harry, but in an official capacity as the Blackstaff to strike down those who were using the laws of magic against the White Council.  The Black Council was almost there for sure.

So with all these forces in one place it makes me wonder if there were also Fallen, Old Ones, Outsiders, and more on the opposite side.  Thomas may have done things behind the scenes that we aren't aware of.  Same for Leah, the Grey Council, Odin, and KoTC.

Think there could be something to this, or am I looking too much into it?

peregrine:
Don't forget the Chicago PD.  They had one of their department heads on the scene.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: peregrine on October 04, 2017, 05:50:19 PM ---Don't forget the Chicago PD.  They had one of their department heads on the scene.

--- End quote ---
lol... 

Rasins:
We saw only a small portion of that battle.

Don't forget that there were "vanilla" mortals there too.  Both Mercs and sacrifices.

Once the Reds were killed and the half-rampires were turned, and started aging and the like, there were still others there who were fighting for their lives.

DonBugen:
Well, we clearly know from the words uttered through Murphy's lips that there were angelic forces at work, forces that had likely gently influenced events in order that the Red Court would be destroyed. TWG works that way, manipulating one group of people to be the executors of judgement for another.

Yes, the gray council was there. And if you believe that they're made up of a group of good people fighting for good and right things, then it's pretty surface. On the other hand, if you believe they're more than what they appear, it becomes an act of removing one patsy who wasn't toeing the line and replacing it with another, and a desperate attempt to save the life of their leader.  Or, if you believe that Dresden has other living family, it becomes, I dunno, an effort to save Merlin trapped in Demonreach and clearly being the keystone that holds it all together.

Or something.

Mab's the interesting one. The Reds are signatories of the accords, and you wouldn't think that Lea could indulge herself if the Reds hadn't offered them any insult.  Either the act of Harry being Winter Knight meant that the past-tense act of kidnapping his daughter became a declaration of war, or it's a "if you're not alive to complain, I can get away with it" sort of deal.

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