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Was there a Dragon in Changes?

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raidem:
My point of disagreement is in calling the impression from chichen itza Dragon, I'm more inclined to label it something else like sleeping ancient, god, titan, genus loci, etc.

As to your reference to Harry's impression of the outer gates, etc in your arguments, I quite followed them whereas Mr. Death didn't.

raidem:
There is Woj on Dragon that they could be given a job like dividing continents with a river, etc.

I would include reference but I'm on kindle, so it's hard to.

So, there is sufficient evidence to support at least a passing resemblance to a Dragon's role.  But my impression is that they would tap these key lines, forces to do so.  It should be mentioned that dragons resent mortals, mankind, for usurping their role in the world.  So I suspect that wizards to some degree is able to do some portion of what a dragon can do.  And dragons resent it.

As to kukulcan, the Mayan god referenced in changes, he is a feathered snake not a Dragon per se.

jonas:
"feathered" is an interpretation of the Nahuatl language though. I see it as a possible reference to simply the idea of wings itself. Course I suppose we don't know dragons never have feathers yet...
Anyway, my point was, at the spot you mention we see the aura of a dragon's horde and at Chicken pizza we see a dragon's raw power. If we take the fact Aztec civilization was overtaken by Mayan sacrificial gods, turning Quetzalcoatl to Kulkan and the relative distance between where the smaug horde was to where chicken pizza is, then we likely are seeing the originals place of hording for Aztec 'feather serpent' and where the LoONs sacrificed it into their power base. they ripped it apart, but since they are of it's power now they weren't directly stopped from his hording spot. I don't expect to see a dragon, but they make reference to them having a similar desire to Horde and aura about their catch of treasures. I see that as reason enough to look at their source of power and see the same comparison to what a dragon can do in a positive light.
Totally agree on the death curse part though, insidious things.

raidem:
WOJ's on topic of Dragon's and what role they fill.

--- Quote ---The other dragon still walking the earth is named Pyrovax
Once & Future Podcast @~60m
Dragons are the kind of forces that you put in charge of things like..
"It's time for another ice age, you- go handle that."
"We really need this continent to be split by a giant river, arrange it."
"Ok."
That's the kind of thing that Dragons would be doing
--- End quote ---


--- Quote ---2009 WoJ forum post:
6. ferrovax - is this because he's the OLDEST dragon? (i thought it was an empty boast) or because he's a dragon?
Ferrovax feels absolutely no need to boast.  It's because he /is/ a Dragon, large D, an elemental force of the cosmos.  He isn't some kind of Smaug hanging around a nice apartment.  He's a Dragon in a more Asian sense of the concept, a semi-divine being who was once given authority over various portions of the mortal universe, and who was responsible for their orderly procession.  There /are/ Smauglike dragons (though not nearly as many now as there have been in the past, thanks George!) but they are essentially nothing but emissaries and servitors created in the image of the real thing.
Regardless of big D or little d, dragons almost universally resent humanity for usurping the balance of power in the world.
--- End quote ---

Considering these, I still feel there is a distinction between the Dragons and what Harry described when he pulled from the Leylines at Chichen Itza. There is some sentience as described by Harry within the well at Chichen Itza.  I know Jim has mentioned a Titan in one of his WOJ's.  Most believe it to be bound within Demonreach.  Perhaps there is something similar asleep beneath CI.

Snark Knight:
I believe the WOJ on Dragons was that there are only two left alive, not only two left awake. And if we can interpret their domains from their names, the survivors are into iron and fire. It could fit the quoted description of the ley line's energy, but it could equally be coming from some other powerful being with a geological affinity, or be entirely naturally occurring.

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