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Was there a Dragon in Changes?

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Drikonn:
Almost as if these are...wild ass guesses?

wardenferry419:
Lack of new traction keeps old wheels spinning?

jonas:
Again, consider 1 the source of the ley lines from DR
2 Consider that Dragons sleeping for centuries under the land is actually a common myth(iirc both Britain and Scotland both have such myths) and Quetzalcoatl, the origin of Kulkan translates as feathered serpent(aka winged)
3 Such dragons are known to only awaken and raise the land for specific, apocalyptic events.
4 that we KNOW a dragon battle is in one Wizards future as well as a Kaiju book event
I don't find it such an alien idea, perhaps little evidence, but that's an intentional thing in 'mystery' books. The overarc in DF is all about mystery and puzzling your way through it. There's plenty of things that we accept as 'factual' that have just as little evidence *cough*Simon*cough*.
Wish ppl would actually study theory and premise itself instead of basing it on sheer perspective.. Because there isn't ANY evidence it's wrong. So your making the same logical leap to decide 'what is' that he's attempting to put as what could be. Neither side in such a platform has an advantage really, but I know it's impossible to na say something into Oblivion, this isn't Merlin starring Sam Neil.... ;D
*oh and moving rivers and landscaping is exactly what Woj says Dragons could do, so that part I actually like.

Mr. Death:
The thing is, when there's a hint, there's a hint. There's nothing in the passage quoted that mentions anything about Dragons. It just says old power. The power on Demonreach is old power, and has nothing to do with Dragons.

Speaking of Demonreach, when it was first introduced, the "mystery" was obvious. Harry noticed things that had nothing to do with the Denarians, and then he asked someone about it. That's what Jim does when he presents a mystery for later -- Harry notices it and notices that it's odd. There's some nod by Harry that something's up.

And how about Vadderung? He knew a hell of a lot about the place. He knew it was the Red Court's seat of power. He makes it his business to know things. You don't think he would've mentioned there being a Dragon involved if it was at all possible?

Also, Harry used the power of that leyline. If he grabbed onto a Dragon's power, the Dragon would have noticed. Harry didn't notice anything that made him question the power and want to look into it later, it was simply a power source he used, and then was depleted immediately after.

jonas:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on October 06, 2017, 11:12:22 PM ---The thing is, when there's a hint, there's a hint. There's nothing in the passage quoted that mentions anything about Dragons. It just says old power. The power on Demonreach is old power, and has nothing to do with Dragons.
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The Ley lines come from literal creatures trapped in Dr... proof body heat can create a ley line.

--- Quote ---Speaking of Demonreach, when it was first introduced, the "mystery" was obvious. Harry noticed things that had nothing to do with the Denarians, and then he asked someone about it. That's what Jim does when he presents a mystery for later -- Harry notices it and notices that it's odd. There's some nod by Harry that something's up.
--- End quote ---
Harry doesn't say anything about the old chapel and circle of tree's in Marcone's yard being the same mixture of Christianity and Celtic religion that Arthur ruled his throne with. Apparently you have to find the hints and interpret them yourself? Go figure right?


--- Quote ---And how about Vadderung? He knew a hell of a lot about the place. He knew it was the Red Court's seat of power. He makes it his business to know things. You don't think he would've mentioned there being a Dragon involved if it was at all possible?
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Vadd doesn't generally offer such info without a price.. How much did he even really offer on DR?


--- Quote ---Also, Harry used the power of that leyline. If he grabbed onto a Dragon's power, the Dragon would have noticed. Harry didn't notice anything that made him question the power and want to look into it later, it was simply a power
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Sleeping dragon who only comes out for purpose awakens and rages because a ley line was accessed? It's his body heat, not pulling out his soul and drinking it down to fuel your spell,
Also Harry knows what the Ley lines on DR come from, didn't stop him in CD, friends did. Looking at or feeling or even using a power doesn't give you a direct link with it's source, a hint at it certainly.

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