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Was there a Dragon in Changes?
phi1601:
Oh, just from the title I thought this would be about one of the Grey Council members being a dragon.
There are still four members we haven't met yet (or at least there were at the time of Changes).
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: RobReece on October 05, 2017, 02:19:57 PM ---A dragon may not mind a supernatural nation making use of the surface above his home, especially if he gets to benefit from all the sacrifices that they conduct there. If you assume that there is a Dragon there, some of the energy that they were generating may have gone to him, even if they weren't aware of it or didn't intend for that to take place.
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How would it benefit from sacrifices to something else entirely? We haven't seen anything in the series that indicates sacrifices work in that fashion, that you could sacrifice something to one deity and another -- that the sacrificer is totally unaware of -- gets some of the benefit.
The Red Court wasn't "making use of" the site. They outright claimed it as their seat of power. Dragons do not just complacently let something else come to their territory and go, "This is mine now." That alone would've been an incinerating offense.
Why would a Dragon not notice that probably the biggest world-wide spell was going on over its head? Why would a Dragon not notice a war happening on top of it?
We don't know much about Dragons, but what we do know indicates they're not nearly this complacent about things happening right on top of them. In this case, the absence of evidence is evidence of absence. If a Dragon was there, we would have seen it in action.
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on October 04, 2017, 08:40:12 PM ---I always pinned that on the sudden lack of Peabody's influence on proceedings, plus the Merlin perhaps overcompensating in making up for that influence.
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That, and I think the Merlin had political motivations, too; Cristos was the one pushing reconciliation in front of the Council, and it seemed clear that the Merlin doesn't trust him. I got the feeling Arthur knows the guy is another turncoat, and was trying to sweep his legs out from under him to prevent him from getting a political victory—while also securing a tactical one for himself.
God, I can't wait for the political crosstalk in Peace Talks.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on October 05, 2017, 02:36:52 PM ---How would it benefit from sacrifices to something else entirely? We haven't seen anything in the series that indicates sacrifices work in that fashion, that you could sacrifice something to one deity and another -- that the sacrificer is totally unaware of -- gets some of the benefit.
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Rawhead actually? That's precisely what they do with the butcher being none the wiser.
--- Quote ---The Red Court wasn't "making use of" the site. They outright claimed it as their seat of power. Dragons do not just complacently let something else come to their territory and go, "This is mine now." That alone would've been an incinerating offense.
Why would a Dragon not notice that probably the biggest world-wide spell was going on over its head? Why would a Dragon not notice a war happening on top of it?
We don't know much about Dragons, but what we do know indicates they're not nearly this complacent about things happening right on top of them. In this case, the absence of evidence is evidence of absence. If a Dragon was there, we would have seen it in action.
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Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: jonas on October 05, 2017, 04:49:46 PM ---Rawhead actually? That's precisely what they do with the butcher being none the wiser.
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The butcher isn't dedicating those animals as sacrifices to anything. The Rawhead just grabs the dead flesh, as I recall.
And even if the Dragon was gaining power from it, you don't think it would've shown up to defend this supposed source of power when it was under attack?
Let's be real here -- if there was a Dragon anywhere near Chichen Itza, there are a dozen reasons it should have shown itself during the huge, apocalyptic battle taking place over the huge, apocalyptic spell that was being prepared. The fact that no such thing occurred means that there just plain was not a Dragon involved.
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