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Was there a Dragon in Changes?
Mr. Death:
I honestly don't think it's a clue or a red herring at all.
He's just describing things on a geological scale. That doesn't point to dragon.
If a dragon was there, you don't think it would've been interested in a vampire nation claiming the place at its seat of power? You don't think it would've noticed all the folks making a racket on its lawn?
I imagine the general rule about Dragons in this 'verse is "Don't bother them if you don't want to get slapped down." They defend their territory.
That doesn't reconcile with the Red Court just up and claiming a site that a Dragon is on.
OxfordComma:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on October 04, 2017, 07:39:30 PM ---If a dragon was there, you don't think it would've been interested in a vampire nation claiming the place at its seat of power? You don't think it would've noticed all the folks making a racket on its lawn?
I imagine the general rule about Dragons in this 'verse is "Don't bother them if you don't want to get slapped down." They defend their territory.
That doesn't reconcile with the Red Court just up and claiming a site that a Dragon is on.
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I think that:
1) Dragons really don't care much what people / vampires do.
2) I think it may be significant that the one and only time we've seen a Dragon was at a Red Court function where they gave him a very costly gift.
Or, as you say, it may not mean anything at all! It just struck a chord with me this morning while listening to the Audiobook.
What also jumped out at me this time was the Merlin's sudden change of tactics. For years his MO against the Reds was "defense defense defense", then all of a sudden he's talking about wiping them off the face of the earth. Hmmm, what happens in the book? The Red's get wiped out. Makes you wonder if Vadderung and he had a chat behind the scenes in this book. 8)
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: OxfordComma on October 04, 2017, 08:29:06 PM ---I think that:
1) Dragons really don't care much what people / vampires do.
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Dragons are prideful, and care enough to leave death curses on and defend their hoards. One of them cared enough that Harry sassed at him to knock him to his knees. Another cared enough to get himself some virgin sacrifices and make deals for power.
It really doesn't seem like one would just not care about a major supernatural nation setting up shop right on top of it, and claiming its site as theirs. Dragons have very definite ideas about what's theirs and what is not, and taking something of a dragon's and calling it yours is not wise.
--- Quote ---What also jumped out at me this time was the Merlin's sudden change of tactics. For years his MO against the Reds was "defense defense defense", then all of a sudden he's talking about wiping them off the face of the earth. Hmmm, what happens in the book? The Red's get wiped out. Makes you wonder if Vadderung and he had a chat behind the scenes in this book. 8)
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I always pinned that on the sudden lack of Peabody's influence on proceedings, plus the Merlin perhaps overcompensating in making up for that influence.
forumghost:
Plus the Red's were so disgusting that they offended even Nicodemus's sensibilities, who wouldn't want to wipe out that kind of stain?
RobReece:
A dragon may not mind a supernatural nation making use of the surface above his home, especially if he gets to benefit from all the sacrifices that they conduct there. If you assume that there is a Dragon there, some of the energy that they were generating may have gone to him, even if they weren't aware of it or didn't intend for that to take place.
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