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What if it isn't just power over Outsiders?

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groinkick:
Harry was told that being a Starborn gave him power over Outsiders.  What if that was just partially true, but didn't include that he has power over more than just that?  What got me thinking about it was the thread about conjuring Harry is more dangerous for you, than him, and Jim saying that it isn't dangerous for Harry's Name being known as it is for others. 

Another thing is that Harry seemed to defeat Mother Winter in a battle of will's I think?  He doesn't have her absolute raw power, but in a battle of will, I think he won.  Also his battle with Ortega, again a battle of will, and Harry was going to win.  Then when Before was in Harry's mind, Harry won that battle of will as well... 

In much of the dresdenverse, belief is real power.  Perhaps ones will can bend reality as much as the combined belief of lots of people.  Harry's Starborn gift may be an unshakable will that puts him on par with the most powerful Being's out there.  He just needs to tap into it more, like when he faced Before.

Smaug with OCD:

--- Quote from: groinkick on October 01, 2017, 04:27:41 AM ---Harry was told that being a Starborn gave him power over Outsiders.  What if that was just partially true, but didn't include that he has power over more than just that?  What got me thinking about it was the thread about conjuring Harry is more dangerous for you, than him, and Jim saying that it isn't dangerous for Harry's Name being known as it is for others. 

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Huh, I hadn't seen or heard about this WoJ. Nifty. Though, admittedly, I get the feeling we're going to see why we shouldn't conjure by Harry's name when the series hits Mirror Mirror.


--- Quote ---Another thing is that Harry seemed to defeat Mother Winter in a battle of will's I think?  He doesn't have her absolute raw power, but in a battle of will, I think he won.  Also his battle with Ortega, again a battle of will, and Harry was going to win.  Then when Before was in Harry's mind, Harry won that battle of will as well... 

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There was soulfire involved here. I'm not sure this counts as a mere "battle of wills."


--- Quote ---In much of the dresdenverse, belief is real power.  Perhaps ones will can bend reality as much as the combined belief of lots of people.

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Isn't this kind of the definition of a wizard?


--- Quote ---Harry's Starborn gift may be an unshakable will that puts him on par with the most powerful Being's out there.  He just needs to tap into it more, like when he faced Before.

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I think his strength of will is more a result of Harry just being... well, Harry. It's who he is, even outside of wielding magic.

I will agree with you, though, that there's probably something more to the whole "Starborn" thing. That being said, I have no idea what it is.

wardenferry419:
I think Mother Winter was not exerting her full power of will during that battle. I think that she was merely annoyed  by the call and wanted to test Harry a little.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on October 01, 2017, 10:57:39 AM ---I think Mother Winter was not exerting her full power of will during that battle. I think that she was merely annoyed  by the call and wanted to test Harry a little.

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A little bit of a test, a little bit of training to prepare him to challenge a Walker. I don't think very much that the Mothers do or say is ever just one thing.

I think the Starborn thing is about more than Outsiders exclusively, though. Specifically, I think Uriel being genuinely frightened at Harry nicknaming him was a clue along those lines.

kazimmoinuddin:
For some reason, I believe Harry will possibly join the three walkers into one host. While they could be more powerful, I also believe they would be more vulnerable. So either properly killed, locked in the well or banished far beyond the outer gates.

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