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Marcone and his knowledge/experience with the supernatural/magic prior to SF

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Rasins:

--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on September 29, 2017, 12:23:39 AM ---I agree on small world. But he has to have run into a wizard somewhere.

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Why?  And Where?

Have you run into one?  Do you know?

Remember that most people don't want to recognize anything supernatural.


--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on September 28, 2017, 07:58:30 PM ---1) Do we know for sure that the storage locker belonged to Siriothrax?
2) Only a few weeks after Tony put the stuff on sale, Grevane showed up.  So you're suggesting that Tony got the cache years earlier, and gave Marcone a couple paintings, and then sat on the rest?  And that Marcone, just looking at the rest, realized the Supernatural was real?  Because the text says Marcone told Tony about the supernatural after Grevane reached out to him.

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No, we don't KNOW that it was part of Siriothrax's hoard, but don't know where else it could have come from.

As to how long he had it, I got the impression that he was selling it off slowly and building up his retirement fund, so yeah, he could have had it for years before he came across the Word of Kemmler and put it up for sale.

wardenferry419:
Marcone seemed prepared or not bothered by the soulgaze. Many textual mentions of norms experiencing soulgazes often involve hysteria or unconsciousness. I would say knowledge of gazes outside the supernatural community is limited, to a very few norms and fringe magic-users. Does anyone else think Marcone might have been involved with a soulgaze prior to SF?

Ananda:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on September 28, 2017, 11:39:54 PM ---That's all too "small world" for me.  I've got an idea that Marcone took the name of a dead man to get out of trouble.  Specifically, that he was a street rat in 60's Chicago that joined the military as John Marcone to get out of town.

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How old are these characters supposed to be, anyway? Joining the military in the ‘60s would put him in his 60s as well.

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Ananda on October 01, 2017, 01:32:56 AM ---How old are these characters supposed to be, anyway? Joining the military in the ‘60s would put him in his 60s as well.

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My timeline puts him at 59 for PT.  He could conceivably be as young as 57 if he stole the "Marcone" identity and used it to join the military early.

Others think he's younger than that.  But there was a mention somewhere that Marcone might have been in Vietnam, and the only way that works with him not collecting Social Security is if he was posted in Saigon for a few years after the war, up until the evacuation.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: forumghost on September 29, 2017, 12:13:44 AM ---I think that if Marcone had anything from Siro's Hord, he wouldn't be magically winning at life and somehow becoming an equal peer with Mab and Hades overnight.

Remember there was a WoJ on Siro and how nobody wants to touch his stash because it has a Fuck-Mothering Dragons death-curse attached to it.

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To play Devil's Advocate, how did it work out for Bony Tony? It could very well be that the death curse affects whoever takes it from his stash, and that contact with the goods after it's stolen wouldn't transfer the curse; a loaded musket, once fired, requires reloading. Though it could just as easily be like uranium.

That aside, I've never thought of it coming from a dragon's hoard in the first place. It's a fun idea, and could very well lead up to the inevitable Dragon Book Jim mentioned in a handful of Words of Jim (Word of Jims?) but it seems a bit unlikely that Tony would have known about it and accessed it. But, putting on my paranoia hat, this could have been the work of the Circle trying to stir up trouble and tossing some problems Marcone's way to limit his influence in Chicago.

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