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Harry/Marcone Relationship
raidem:
I've in the past speculated that there is some father son relationship, or paternal lineage, going on, with a temporal spin on things in the mix between Harry and Marcone. I've further speculated that TT_Harry and/or TT_Murphy are Marcone's parents. The following is the first interaction in the series between Harry and Marcone and the dialogue drips with fatherly references of some type. So I've wondered if perhaps Jim has set the stage for a complex time plot whereby someones (Marcone's) origin lies within time travel; someone needs to time travel for him to be born.
The simplest explanation is that Marcone enjoys using the father persona in dealing with Harry. And Jim likes describing it that way.
The simple reason without time travel with it being significant is that there is some paternal familial relationship that connects Harry and Marcone.
Stormfront and Dresden Files series begins with Son paying tribute to father.
--- Quote ---For Debbie Chester, who taught me everything I really needed to know about writing. And for my father, who taught me everything I really needed to know about living.
I miss you dad.
--- End quote ---
This is then followed closely by multiple 'father' references during the Harry/Marcone encounter.
SF:
--- Quote ---Marcone seemed somewhat put off by my attitude. Maybe I was supposed to be holding my hat in my hand, but I had never really liked Francis Ford Coppola, and I didn't have a Godfather. (I do have a Godmother, and she is, inevitably perhaps, a faery. But that's another story.)
--- End quote ---
--- Quote ---He wrinkled up his face as if carefully considering what he would say, and taking my well-being into account with grandfatherly concern. "How much would it set me back to have you not investigate something?"
--- End quote ---
--- Quote ---"All right, then," he said, smoothly, and as though nothing had happened. "I won't try to force my offer on you, Mister Dresden." The car was slowing down as it approached my building, and Hendricks pulled over in front of it. "But let me offer you some advice?"
He had dropped the father-talking-to-son act, and spoke in a calm and patient voice.
--- End quote ---
FM:
--- Quote ---"Get out of my office," I said. I stepped inside and closed the door.
"Now, now, Mr. Dresden," Marcone said, a father's reproof in his tone. "Is that any way to talk to a business partner?"
--- End quote ---
--- Quote ---...Marcone chuckled. "I think you should hear me out." I looked him in the eyes and smiled faintly. "No. Get out."
His fatherly manner vanished, and his eyes became cold. "I have neither the time nor the tolerance for your childishness, Mr. Dresden.
--- End quote ---
By now, in just a cursory review of just the first few books, Jim has deliberately depicted Marcone employing a fatherly approach when attempting to persuade Harry to do what he wants. What that exactly means, I'm not sure but it can be the basis of potential foreshadowing and irony depending on how things turn out.
TIDBITS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY GERMANE.
(click to show/hide)Comics constantly have Marcone and Harry appearing together.
Bloodline curse in Storm Front aimed at Marcone; Same curse aimed at Harry in Changes.
In a book on bloodline curses, Archive points Harry to Marcone for hint which then leads to Vadderung. (Changes)
DB: Marcone interferes with Harry's fate in fight with CapioCorpus at Boks Books.
Both Harry and marcone have a solid rule about protecting children.
--- Quote ---Obviously, I am not Harry Dresden [Irony?]. My name is something I rarely trouble to remember, but for most of my adult life, I have been called John Marcone. I am a professional monster.
It sounds pretentious. After all, I'm not a [flesh-devouring ghoul, no vampire, no ogre, no demon, no cursed beast, not a mortal wizard]. But they will never be what I am. One and all, those beings were born to be what they are. I made a choice.
--- End quote ---
[long lived changeling who finally chose similar to Sarissa?]
Mirror Mirror Marcone interesting.
--- Quote ---Kansas City release party Q&A
I read the short story from Marcone's point of view, Even Hand, and I noticed that John Marcone is not his real name. Is that going to be significant?
Sure is if somebody tries to cast a spell at him using the name John Marcone! That would be a big deal. We'll have to see how that works out. Actually the character that's really interesting is the Mirror Mirror universe Marcone, and we'll get to him in a few books.
--- End quote ---
--- Quote ---Per Priscellie Jim told her at ComicCon:
Hendricks' first name is Nathan
--- End quote ---
Favorite Restaurant's; Multiple Meanings?
--- Quote ---Marcone
2010 Powell's books Q&A off of Youtube @0:30
With Regards to Even Hand
It's from the perspective of John Marcone, and sort of shows you what he's doing behind the scenes. And if you read the short story and then go and read the story that's in Changes in Burger King, it has two totally different meanings.
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Both have a favorite restaurant as can be seen at end of even hand for Marcone, then for Harry in changes. Please analyze the above WOJ and what you conclude from it and the readings of Even Hand and excerpt of Changes.
I'll add to this as I come across additional pertinent information.
Con:
-_- Harry is clearly the scion of Odin
Thatguywhocomesaround:
Marcone was a solider in Vietnam? That doesn't sound right. I think WOJ was a Marine, but was it specified it was Vietnam?
raidem:
From what I recall he was a marine in Vietnam. Though I might be getting Michael carpenter confused in with the woj. You definitely remembered correctly that he was a marine.
Mira:
--- Quote from: raidem on September 24, 2017, 06:41:48 PM ---From what I recall he was a marine in Vietnam. Though I might be getting Michael carpenter confused in with the woj. You definitely remembered correctly that he was a marine.
--- End quote ---
Yeah, it doesn't sound right that Marcone was a marine in Viet Nam... Does anyone know what his age is? That would tell us a lot about whether he was or not..
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