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groinkick:
--- Quote from: jonas on September 24, 2017, 09:37:37 PM ---Because Summer always acts in balance and what Winter did staying around to revive Harry cries of imbalance.
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I don't think that Summer, and Winter balancing is like how Angels balance things. Winter/Summer balance has more to do with their base of power, not their actions taken, I think. It's more likely balancing will be with Elaine becoming Summer Knight.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on September 25, 2017, 01:52:45 AM ---I don't have to because it's obvious from the books that it doesn't happen that way.
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Yea, that's wherecommunication breaks down ad I stop trying, yes. you do have to back up supposition. You can't even tell me where he got shot or if he chose his fae heritage if it coulda saved him.
--- Quote ---What you're suggesting is that, for example, to mirror picking Harry as Winter Knight, Titania would go out and get a wizard for her Summer Knight, which she didn't do.
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*cough*Elaine*cough*, fyi anything not balanced by the courts gets balanced elsewhere... Now why don't you explain how Winter in Summer isn't imbalanced, through the direct and Willfull actions of the queen no less.
--- Quote ---They act when the other acts. That has never meant they do the exact same things.
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In balance, In Balance. Mab has a powerful Weapon in Harry, Titania will require a balance, period.
--- Quote ---That's not even to mention that Lake Michigan freezing in the winter is not Summer's domain. It's Mab's, which is how she explains she grabs Harry.
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Also the Fomor's, whom are N's court manifesting.
--- Quote ---So you pick a weaker guy that has no incentive to work for you, was actively working with the people trying to end the world, and who's already gotten his ass kicked by the Winter Knight he's supposed to mirror?
And yet, Harry blows him away with a gun, and it's basically an afterthought at that point.
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He's not supposed to mirror him yet, he's a fricken Human still man....? ???
--- Quote ---Look, he's just not some great adversary for Harry. He's a flunky of the real villain -- hell, a flunky of a flunky of the real villain -- whose demise is an afterthought at best.
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opinion.
--- Quote ---He served his purpose (and failed at that), got shot, and fell into the waters of someplace that's explicitly not Summer's domain.
He's dead, Jim.
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YOUR not Jim, and that's not fricken WOJ. Don't try to write it up like it is, that's ridiculious. Have patience for the next book instead of insisting your right, cause when He pops up I WILL remind you ;;)
jonas:
--- Quote from: groinkick on September 25, 2017, 03:53:39 AM ---I don't think that Summer, and Winter balancing is like how Angels balance things. Winter/Summer balance has more to do with their base of power, not their actions taken, I think. It's more likely balancing will be with Elaine becoming Summer Knight.
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The queens actions are specifically taken in tandem though.. Harry discusses it all the time, especially after He's targeted in WK prematurely. Which imo points to Mab and Titania actually being aware of the actions taken that require a direct balance, she knew from looking at the game board they share(which might quite literally be the stone table) Like a cross between battleship and Chess.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: jonas on September 25, 2017, 10:03:31 AM ---Yea, that's wherecommunication breaks down ad I stop trying, yes. you do have to back up supposition. You can't even tell me where he got shot or if he chose his fae heritage if it coulda saved him.
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Yes, I can
On that scene on the boat, Harry is explicitly shooting everyone who tries to come aboard.
He mentions seeing Ace's face in the light of the muzzle flash.
Ergo, he got shot.
Could his fae heritage have saved him? Probably not. The Redcap isn't known for being able to survive gunshot wounds. The big Redcap seemed to think Harry could kill him bare-handed.
--- Quote ---*cough*Elaine*cough*, fyi anything not balanced by the courts gets balanced elsewhere... Now why don't you explain how Winter in Summer isn't imbalanced, through the direct and Willfull actions of the queen no less.
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You're not talking about Elaine. You're talking about Ace.
And Elaine isn't the Summer Knight.
You're putting way more literalism into "the faerie courts balance each other" than has ever been evidenced in the books. Them acting to counter one another does not mean they do the same things.
--- Quote ---In balance, In Balance. Mab has a powerful Weapon in Harry, Titania will require a balance, period.
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She has one. His name is Fix.
--- Quote ---Also the Fomor's, whom are N's court manifesting.
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So is it the Fomor, or Titania? Or is Titania working with the Fomor?
Why would the Fomor care so much? If they did grab him, they'd probably just make him into a rank and file servitor.
--- Quote ---He's not supposed to mirror him yet, he's a fricken Human still man....? ???
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That's the point.
If Titania wanted to get an equal and opposite mirror to Harry, she wouldn't pick some random human whose track record against Harry is already 0-2. She'd get someone with real power already.
--- Quote ---YOUR not Jim, and that's not fricken WOJ. Don't try to write it up like it is, that's ridiculious.
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So you've never heard of Star Trek?
--- Quote ---Have patience for the next book instead of insisting your right, cause when He pops up I WILL remind you ;;)
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"Don't you dare insist you're right. Because I'm insisting I'm right!" Really?
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: jonas on September 25, 2017, 10:23:06 AM ---The queens actions are specifically taken in tandem though.. Harry discusses it all the time, especially after He's targeted in WK prematurely. Which imo points to Mab and Titania actually being aware of the actions taken that require a direct balance, she knew from looking at the game board they share(which might quite literally be the stone table) Like a cross between battleship and Chess.
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Right, so when Mab named Harry emissary, what did Titania do again?
Did she find a wizard of Harry's power and make them emissary?
No, she just sent her already-Summer hit squad.
Ergo, no, the queens do not balance each other by taking the same actions.
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