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How far can Mab go to seek revenge on a mortal?
MarcelRED147:
--- Quote from: DonBugen on September 17, 2017, 08:53:50 PM ---Not once it's revealed that Cowl is really Harry's time-traveled alternate dimension-hopping grandson through Maggie and Simon, who is currently living in the body of Justin DuMorne after Kemmler body-swapped him.
That's the current theory, yes?
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Simon? As in Simon Pietrovich? That's dumb. Everyone knows that it's Dresden's grandkid through Maggie and time-travelling Steed.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: peregrine on September 17, 2017, 11:11:56 PM ---The other thing is questions of what counts as "involvement" with the court.
She can't just whack entirely unrelated people, but if you've done something that warrants her wanting revenge on you that badly, we're talking something more than just inhibiting her plans. Which may include some other type of involvement.
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I'm not sure Bob was even aware of Nemesis when he explained the Knight's role to Harry in terms of assassinating people the Queens couldn't touch for lack of "involvement" with Sidhe affairs, either. Which makes it difficult to definitely address whether spreading it counts as "involved".
Rasins:
I think the real question is, what does "Attached" to one of the fae courts mean, when it comes to the Queen being able to do anything to them.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: DonBugen on September 18, 2017, 10:48:49 AM ---Or... he only finds out the identity after.
Remember, Jim doesn't enjoy torturing his characters, he enjoys torturing us.
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Ooh yeah that's true... Kills cowl, removes the mask *gasp*, *tears streaming down his cheeks* "why?" "WHY!?"
dspringer1:
What we know or can be fairly certain about
* If you attack Mab directly, she can kill you.
* If you are a random mortal, she can use her knight to kill you - but is unlikely to do so unless she has a reason.
* We do know that Aurora was able to attack Murphy ineffectually with the plant monster. Enough to cause some bruises perhaps, but nothing more.
* We also know that the same restrictions apply to any agent Mab directs to harm you.
Speculation
* I think the restrictions on her actions are quite severe or she would not need a knight. if all it takes is some illusion to manufacture a token offensive action against Mab, that would be child play for Mab to arrange.
* Equally sure, Mab can do all sorts of bad stuff to you that is NOT prohibited by this stricture. Things like imprisoning you for a thousand years in a block of ice... Yet that too seems a significant loophole. I wonder if Mab's actual restrictions are much more than simply a limit against killing a mortal.
* Ditto with selecting an agent which is likely to harm you "on their own" Seems a huge loophole.
My own personal feeling is that the actual restriction is much broader than simply killing someone. I think Mab is prohibited from harming directly or even somewhat indirectly any mortal that does not "choose" to involve themselves in fey business. This includes her taking actions that are likely to result in harm, even if she does not direct it. However, she is allowed to create conditions where an enemy feels motivated to attack or harm Mab in some way. But they must be in the wrong, not Mab.
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