The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Was Justin preparing Harry to learn necromancy?
Mira:
--- Quote from: apgrey on September 20, 2017, 09:57:53 PM ---Ref: http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,48685.msg2258158.html#msg2258158
The above link refers to a post I made a while ago about Justin, Elaine and Harry.
I suspect that like Margaret LeFay, there is something important that we don't yet know about Elaine.
My idea was that Harry called Elaine almost as strong as he is. Harry is in the top 50 to 100 wizards worldwide for his age group. So, I don't think it is possible Justin DuMorne could have found two apprentices that powerful by chance.
We know from Blood Rites that Justin was an associate of Margaret LeFay. I suspect Margaret and Justin worked together to learn how to create a Starborn. After Margaret fled from Lord Raith Justin used that knowledge with Elaine's parents to create a second potential Starborn.
This theory explains why Justin was aware of both Harry and Elaine. It also suggest Justin may have been the reason both Harry and Elaine became orphans.
APG
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I don't know that Justin was an associate of Margaret, other than they were both members of the White Council. He was a Warden, and she was in rebellion most of the time. It would seem odd that he'd be able to get her to take up with Lord Raith or that he'd be behind Lord Raith killing her upon the birth of Harry, though he may have been in on the killing of Malcolm.. What is interesting is while Harry embraced the White Council even though he was nearly beheaded by them and persecuted for a while by Morgan, Elaine has avoided becoming a member.. As to comparative strengths, we don't know how good a judge Harry is of that, she might be stronger. The times we meet her in the books she seems to have more control than he does at any rate.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 21, 2017, 11:49:47 AM ---I don't know that Justin was an associate of Margaret, other than they were both members of the White Council. He was a Warden, and she was in rebellion most of the time. It would seem odd that he'd be able to get her to take up with Lord Raith or that he'd be behind Lord Raith killing her upon the birth of Harry, though he may have been in on the killing of Malcolm.. What is interesting is while Harry embraced the White Council even though he was nearly beheaded by them and persecuted for a while by Morgan, Elaine has avoided becoming a member.. As to comparative strengths, we don't know how good a judge Harry is of that, she might be stronger. The times we meet her in the books she seems to have more control than he does at any rate.
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Ebenezer specifically mentions that Margaret took up with DuMorne among others, if I'm not mistaken.
Rasins:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on September 21, 2017, 01:03:48 PM ---Ebenezer specifically mentions that Margaret took up with DuMorne among others, if I'm not mistaken.
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I thought it was when he mentioned the dinner Margaret wanted him to go to with the Dutchess and Lord Raith
Froklsnt:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on September 21, 2017, 01:03:48 PM ---Ebenezer specifically mentions that Margaret took up with DuMorne among others, if I'm not mistaken.
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I just quoted the pertinent line in another thread, here it is:
--- Quote from: Blood Rights Ch 35 ---I don't know why, but for some reason she turned away from her previous associates, including Justin DuMorne. After that, no where was safe for her. She ran, from her former allies and from the wardens for perhaps two years... She met your father. A man, a mortal without powers, without influence, without resources, but a man with a good soul like few I have ever seen. I believe she fell in love with him.
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The dinner did not include Justin, you're correct Rasins. Just Ariana and Lord Raith. But the connection between Margaret and just was established way back in book 6. I'm also in the school of thought that Justin "finding" Elaine is a bit too convenient to believe. He likely had a hand in her conception, one way or another.
Rasins:
--- Quote from: Froklsnt on September 21, 2017, 04:12:56 PM ---I just quoted the pertinent line in another thread, here it is:
The dinner did not include Justin, you're correct Rasins. Just Ariana and Lord Raith. But the connection between Margaret and just was established way back in book 6. I'm also in the school of thought that Justin "finding" Elaine is a bit too convenient to believe. He likely had a hand in her conception, one way or another.
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I don't know if he had a hand in her conception, though I wouldn't discount the possibility. I'd sooner believe he, as a Warden, had created a network (ala Paranet) that would let him know about potential Wizards.
But really, who knows. LOL
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