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Starborn idea
Rasins:
I believe that Margaret DID know of the need for a Starborn. I don't believe that Thomas was her first attempt. It think she was just enjoying great sex.
But, it's entirely possible that she learned of the need, and maybe the process, for creating a Starborn, from Pappa Raith's library. And then she started working on a means of escape.
Further, I believe that Justin was in on the plan.
Here's a further WAG ... Margart was trying to get the Vampire courts together to take over the outer gates.
jonas:
Taking my earlier 5 starborn wag vs the name The Circle and it's possible representation in the pentagram, I think the whole point of what they were up to was to produce and control those 5 starborn. The pentacle/elements/starborn under THEIR Will/control as mortal's, The Circle in the pentagram. So... yea this OP has it pretty close to what probably was. Rather than a simple ritual though, I'd say it was finding what keys unlocked which Paths from the stars and turning them in sequence.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on September 15, 2017, 11:13:57 PM ---I like that part about how Elaine does not think about magic in the same way as Harry. Feels like it has meaning.
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Cough - Kumori - cough.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Rasins on September 19, 2017, 05:48:15 PM ---I believe that Margaret DID know of the need for a Starborn. I don't believe that Thomas was her first attempt. It think she was just enjoying great sex.
But, it's entirely possible that she learned of the need, and maybe the process, for creating a Starborn, from Pappa Raith's library. And then she started working on a means of escape.
Further, I believe that Justin was in on the plan.
Here's a further WAG ... Margart was trying to get the Vampire courts together to take over the outer gates.
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I doubt it as far as Thomas was concerned, evidence for that is the fact that she left him behind when she ran off with Malcolm. If she was trying with Lord Raith to conceive a star child her motives were way different from what they were when she conceived Harry.... Lash confirms this by saying meeting Malcolm gave her the courage to leave Lord Raith, then she went about the business of conceiving Harry. Since we don't know the exact alignments, genes, etc to make a star child, it is unclear .. If what you are saying is true, why didn't she just stick around and have another baby with Lord Raith if she failed the first time?
exartiem:
I don't think she ran off WITH Malcolm. I think she met him while on the run.
I think she was trying to create a starborn with LR. She told Eb that she was with LR to accomplish something, that they had a plan.
I think it more likely that Elaine's parents didn't know, but someone (Justin) saw the circumstances of her birth and figured it was possible. He then killed the parents and arranged to become the foster parent. IIRC he adopted Harry for pretty much the same reason.
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