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Which absent villian will appear in Peace Talks?

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kazimmoinuddin:
I remember a story with the fae, a human travelled to their lands and never aged there, but when he returned to the mortal realm, he super aged. So the Eebs were restored to humanity, but somehow simply did not age in the lands of faerie. They would need some kind of patron to alter them to allow them to survive in the mortal realm once more.

forumghost:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on September 08, 2017, 06:26:28 PM ---I'm ambivalent on the subject of the Ebs.  If they do still exist, I hope there is a good (Doyalistic) reason for it.

Two good reasons they left, assuming they survived the curse.
1) The Erlking didn't want to exterminate a hunter species, no matter how worthless the Eebs might have been.
2) A Nemesis agent in the Erlking's Court secretly expedited their release as potential allies to the cause.

--- End quote ---

Why would Nemesis waste it's time and effort (not to mention the identity of its agents) to spring a couple of loser Rampires?

What made the Red Court a threat was their numbers, influence, and organization. None of which the Eebs have.

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: forumghost on September 08, 2017, 08:25:38 PM ---Why would Nemesis waste it's time and effort (not to mention the identity of its agents) to spring a couple of loser Rampires?

What made the Red Court a threat was their numbers, influence, and organization. None of which the Eebs have.

--- End quote ---
Theoretically, all it would take is the primary agent using an ignorant resource to free them, and then have another ignorant resource eliminate the "traitor" before questioning. 

As to why make the effort, the Ramps were a formidable asset that can be quickly rebuilt.  If the Eebs were freed (one way or another) right after the curse, then by the time of Peace Talks, they will have had a couple years to add to their numbers.

With the chaos of the Fomor/Council war, the Eebs could have taken plenty of people to turn.  They might have been able to hold on to some of the old resources of the Court, in remote areas that don't get as much attention.

And if they joined forces with the Fomor, as other disenfranchised groups have, then they would have access to some of the Court's old resources that the Fomor seized, and would have the ability to work in the shadows of their organization to rebuild.

By the time the Peace Talks begin, they could have hundreds, even thousands, of Ramps ready to raid the talks along with the Fomor to surprise the attendees and enact revenge for their demise.  Ramps made from werewolves and minor talents and everyone else the Fomor have been kidnapping. 

Mr. Death:
That's presuming they could make new vampires.

Bianca couldn't until she was promoted to the higher ranks of nobility. There's nobody around to promote the Eebs, so if they weren't already...

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on September 08, 2017, 11:11:18 PM ---That's presuming they could make new vampires.

Bianca couldn't until she was promoted to the higher ranks of nobility. There's nobody around to promote the Eebs, so if they weren't already...

--- End quote ---
We don't know the methodology of their transformation.  It might be that she physically could, but to do so without permission is a death sentence.

Or it could be that the power of the Court was spread, like Vadderung said, and the most senior could do it.  Being the only survivors, the Eebs and their squad would be the most senior.

Or, they might not be able to, in which case there wouldn't be much point in bringing them back.  That's up to JB.

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