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Bob's Personality, and Justin
jonas:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 23, 2017, 11:25:33 AM ---The Mothers said that the mantles pass to the nearest suitable vessel. The Table isn't needed, when Slade murdered the Summer Knight the mantle was transferred, the Table wasn't needed.. If Lily or Titania needed the Table for Fix to acquire the Summer knight's mantle is was off page... I don't think blood is needed either for it, what is confusing in my opinion is the execution of Slade.. He had to die to give up the mantle, also it all could have been a bit of a perverted show that Mab wanted to put on.. For the simple reason, why would the transfer of the Knight's mantle be so much more elaborate and complicated the the transfer of the Lady's mantle?
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It's funny, cause I'm pretty sure your disagreeing with me ??? but your also pointing out the direct fallibility in the use of the table. It wasn't needed, She didn't need to have such an elaborate method. BUT Watsonion and doyalist both say, 'why forth then did you do it Holmes?'
Zaphodess:
--- Quote from: Quantus on August 23, 2017, 02:53:08 PM ---This is still possible. The Mission was nominally to Hunt the Summer Knight, but he did so by allying with the Summer Lady, and in at least one instance deliberately failed his task given by the Winter Lady (in not recovering usable Blood from Elaine).
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Faerie bargains and law are all about the letter of the law. He did attack Elaine brought back some blood, he just wasn't really successful. Of course that was intentional, but technically, he had followed his orders.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Zaphodess on August 24, 2017, 10:10:42 AM ---Faerie bargains and law are all about the letter of the law. He did attack Elaine brought back some blood, he just wasn't really successful. Of course that was intentional, but technically, he had followed his orders.
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This is also true. And Maeve might not have been as controlled/precise in her wording as Mab might be. She'd certainly earned his animosity on all it's own.
Rasins:
AND we don't know that the WK can have a compulsion placed on him to do something. We haven't seen Harry with any form of magical compulsion placed on him to do, or not do anything as WK.
It could be that Slade could have just sat down and done nothing. But he had to make it appear as though he was trying to keep the plan going.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Rasins on August 24, 2017, 07:43:58 PM ---AND we don't know that the WK can have a compulsion placed on him to do something. We haven't seen Harry with any form of magical compulsion placed on him to do, or not do anything as WK.
It could be that Slade could have just sat down and done nothing. But he had to make it appear as though he was trying to keep the plan going.
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No, but only because Harry very forcefully negotiated against it during his initial Hiring, and Mab has thus far agreed to not risk it; but both acknowledge she has the power. Meanwhile, we've seen it dont both to Fix as Summer knight and Harry as Winter Emissary. Im confident that the Queens tpically have and use that power over their knights. We saw Maeve compel Slate directly in SK, albeit with (not feigned?) difficulty, and we know that slate wasnt an actual fan of hers.
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