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Denarians and White Council
Quantus:
--- Quote from: vultur on August 02, 2017, 06:09:47 AM ---IMO, it wouldn't even be really a war. In Small Favor, Harry describes Tessa as Council-level in a way that implies the other magic-using Denarians aren't. And a lot of the Denarians are just thugs, really terrifying to a mortal but not that much more impressive than the average Rampire. The only ones who I think would pose a real threat to halfway experienced Wardens, assuming equal numbers and barring situational factors heavily favoring the Denarian, are Thorned Namshiel, Tessa, Ursiel (depending on host), and Nic (who's a bit of a special case - assault rifle bullets impair him temporarily, and good evocations are way more destructive than that, so IMO Warden could defend themselves quite well, but they couldn't permanently kill him - unless they knew his weakness, which Harry does, so if he was fighting on the WC's side...)
EDIT: And that's assuming Eb didn't intervene with Blackstaff-stuff.
I still wonder, once the WC was officially at war with the Rampires and thus they were fair game under the Accords, Eb didn't drop satellites/chunks of asteroid/earthquakes/etc on every Rampire stronghold? Being able to throw around Tunguska Events just seems too overwhelming - I don't see what anyone short of god/cosmic level powers could do to defend against it.
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I dont think we should assume that Eb can bring Tunguska level's of Power/Energy to bear any time or place he wants. Any more than Harry can whistle up a Zombie T-Rex or reallocate miles of the earth's gravity any time or place; he was able to pull it off in one instance, but with several lucky things (Ley Lines mostly) all coming together to make it possible.
knnn:
--- Quote from: Small Favor ---Luccio mmmmm ed again. I heard a pencil scratching. “Dresden,” she said, “I cannot stress to you enough how vital it is that we avoid general hostilities, even with a relatively small power.”
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I'd say this is a reasonable assessment.
Rasins:
Another reason Eb may not be able to bring down satalites and the like is because he wants deniability.
"who me? No way. That satalite was in a decaying orbit anyway. No one else noticed it I guess. But I had nothing to do with it."
Where as if he did it many times in the war, it's entirely possible that folks would become aware he was doing it.
Zaphodess:
--- Quote from: vultur on August 02, 2017, 06:09:47 AM ---I still wonder, once the WC was officially at war with the Rampires and thus they were fair game under the Accords, Eb didn't drop satellites/chunks of asteroid/earthquakes/etc on every Rampire stronghold? Being able to throw around Tunguska Events just seems too overwhelming - I don't see what anyone short of god/cosmic level powers could do to defend against it.
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The Blackstaff doesn't give Eb more firepower, it helps him not go insane when he breaks the Laws of Magic. This is something Eb doesn't do lightly. Casaverde was a special case. They needed a response to Archangel and get rid of Ortega, even though it meant killing humans alongside. The White Council doesn't want to do that too often. They'd become complete hypocrites and maybe enrage other supernatural powers.
There's no reason to use the Blackstaff to fight Red Court Vampires. They are fair game for wizards.
vultur:
--- Quote from: Quantus on August 02, 2017, 01:40:05 PM ---I dont think we should assume that Eb can bring Tunguska level's of Power/Energy to bear any time or place he wants. Any more than Harry can whistle up a Zombie T-Rex or reallocate miles of the earth's gravity any time or place; he was able to pull it off in one instance, but with several lucky things (Ley Lines mostly) all coming together to make it possible.
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I doubt he can do it quickly, but he's done it at least 16 times (New Madrid, Krakatoa, Tunguska, Casaverde, "a dozen more at least") so he must know how to set it up, and the war with the Red Court lasted years.
--- Quote from: Zaphodess on August 03, 2017, 11:45:38 AM ---The Blackstaff doesn't give Eb more firepower,
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I dunno - it definitely keeps him from going crazy, but I'm not at all convinced that that's the only effect it has.
--- Quote ---This is something Eb doesn't do lightly. Casaverde was a special case. They needed a response to Archangel and get rid of Ortega, even though it meant killing humans alongside.
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True.
The attack they did in DB was even worse than the Archangel one, though - killing tons of Wardens in the hospital and coming very close to outright victory. That would seem to deserve an even larger response.
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