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Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on July 21, 2017, 02:12:26 AM ---I think the Sidhe have been the Gate defenders since at least circa Battle of Hastings, if not longer. That puts the transition too early to tie the previous defenders' troubles to the scientific revolution.

Under the theory that the Sidhe displaced a coalition of pagan pantheons, it's possible the decline was due monotheism overtaking polytheism in much of the world. If many of the members of the previous gate defenders were running low on believers to fuel their power, maybe creating the seasonal courts and passing the torch to Winter was an act of desperation.

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This, with the caveat that monotheistic pantheons couldn't take over the Gates themselves because of restrictive purviews imposed upon them by mortal beliefs.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on July 21, 2017, 02:43:33 AM ---This, with the caveat that monotheistic pantheons couldn't take over the Gates themselves because of restrictive purviews imposed upon them by mortal beliefs.

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What do you mean?

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on July 21, 2017, 02:12:26 AM ---I think the Sidhe have been the Gate defenders since at least circa Battle of Hastings, if not longer. That puts the transition too early to tie the previous defenders' troubles to the scientific revolution.

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It woudl certainly be on the late end of things.  Im not saying the Rennasaince or anything, but rather when the shift went from Faith to logical Reasoning, which began 500BC according to this.  By Hastings, people were publishing refutations of the Aristotelian classic elements and were gaining a modern understanding of disease, medicine, optics, etc.  All these things were becoming explain as Natural parts of the world rather than the Power and mercurial tempers of Gods and Monsters.


--- Quote ---Under the theory that the Sidhe displaced a coalition of pagan pantheons, it's possible the decline was due monotheism overtaking polytheism in much of the world. If many of the members of the previous gate defenders were running low on believers to fuel their power, maybe creating the seasonal courts and passing the torch to Winter was an act of desperation.

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This could work too, though Id expect that particular shift to center more directly around the Crucifixion, given that all Objects with actual, innate Power (save the blackstaff) all come from that stage.

Rasins:

--- Quote from: Quantus on July 21, 2017, 12:08:16 PM ---This could work too, though Id expect that particular shift to center more directly around the Crucifixion, given that all Objects with actual, innate Power (save the blackstaff) all come from that stage.

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What if ... the Blackstaff was the actual Staff portion of the Spear of Longinus?

kazimmoinuddin:
It is claimed  the fomor include Titans and Giants, those that were the precursors to the more mortal aligned pantheons. The primordial pantheons, the more element ally aligned divinities. So if the faerie courts have the more human pantheons, would the fomor gathered the elemental pantheons.

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