The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Better Guns for Dresden and Co.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Shift8 on July 21, 2017, 04:44:38 PM ---Which is kind of my point really. If those circumstances haven't aligned, then they must be so specific as to not be much a a problem in general.
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Because Harry's personal experiences are Universal? The hazards of Radiation Poisoning have not come up in my own personal experience, but that doesnt mean they arent still an entirely valid a concern, one I should absolutely acknowledge if it /does/ become relevant.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Quantus on July 21, 2017, 04:49:20 PM ---Because Harry's personal experiences are Universal?
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Wait, I thought he was an unreliable narrator, though?
Shift8:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on July 21, 2017, 04:43:50 PM ---Jim is saying, directly, that a wizard handling a gun in his hand and using it is likely to cause a malfunction. He lays out several reasons for that.
If I'm not mistaken, you're still arguing that wizards (i.e., the type of person Jim's WOJ says would have trouble with guns) should use guns (i.e., the items that Jim's WOJ just said wizards would have trouble with).
Do you not see the issue with your assertion here?
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No, because Jim is just clarifying that the direct factors of the effect differ based on circumstances. But then then goes on to say that the reason it appears to have "gone away" is because Harry's impression of its function is incomplete. In the context of the books, it clearly shows that he hugely over estimates the effect and how it works based on the fact that is seems like the effect doesnt do much most of the time. Hence why the stars havent aligned as it were.
jonas:
Not to beat a dead horse, but waaay back when I responded to Namkas I had an alternative theory that would completely cover said holes you perceive.
*horse ain't dead until you acknowledge the body. It was never found.
--- Quote ---The rules are not readily apparent without thought, but they exist and while they are mutable, they haven't changed yet in the pages of the stories that I've noticed. This isn't odd to me at all. You have to examine the evidence, both book and woj deductively. uhh let me try it this way.
Wizards effect technology because they are conflicted. that confliction this is what causes machines to break down. Said effect is actually wizards effecting probability, the randomness of luck.
It's contained to machines as even top wizards don't usually put off enough magical aura to do what say, meeting with mother winter would do, but the transfer can happen. Also because they are 'spirit callers' not necessarily of previously living beings but the spirits of the elements themselves, like in GS the ghosts can effect the van but not people. they aren't supposed to, and without manifesting(whih is bad juju) they can't. Wizards can effect people and obects inside others aura's because wizards are mortal, they possess the free will to do so.(technically, ghost can screw with the nautral order too, but notice if either a wizard or ghost do so they tend to go kooky for cosmic reasons)
Now notice when said conflict or belief of conflict fails to come into play, is when they aren't conflicted! guns pointed at Dresden misfire all the time. Dresden himself enjoys blowing out technology, that's prime reason why anything around him would go bonkers, deep down he wants it somewhere. Notice now that NEVER not once has Harry's gun ever misfired? He doesn't want it to! it's very clear cut to me but I might not have explained well enough. however I take great offence to the statement no single theory can explain it, mine can... if only I could explain it lol. Oh, and yea... that's totally an underestimation of jims ability to say they're that way to make the story work. of course they're there to make the story work. But not as silly plot devices that go one way or another depending on what makes the current story. the over arcing story.
I use this connection between magic and random luck to make my own connection between the 3rd fate, the chooser, Nemesis who meets out punishment and literal fortuna, luck. it's all the same thing. Before she was ousted she controlled magic to decide the fate of everything as much as MW destroys and MS is the source of creation.
*Notice milk stopped spoiling and skin conditions desisted as part of the magical effect, right around when people started to learn more about the world and contributing those things to reality based effects instead of bad luck or 'little demons', Ahhh think about it, milk was left out to ward away bad luck! It twas the focus to to be used against it, a talisman if you were. An what happened because of it? Random 'badluck' from wizarding aura's began to accumulate in milk causing it to spoil!
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discuss :)
Shift8:
--- Quote from: Quantus on July 21, 2017, 04:49:20 PM ---Because Harry's personal experiences are Universal? The hazards of Radiation Poisoning have not come up in my own personal experience, but that doesnt mean they arent still an entirely valid a concern, one I should absolutely acknowledge if it /does/ become relevant.
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Not at all. Harry's use of guns is quite clearly one of many many many many examples of the effect not doing anything. Hence why the wardens use them, Vampires them, Fae use them etc. And strangely the just keep on working even when 9000 people are flinging every sort of magic possible at the same time. It is very much the opposite of his singular use.
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