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Better Guns for Dresden and Co.

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groinkick:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on July 18, 2017, 08:09:35 PM ---What's said in the books is that guns are so much overkill for killing humans that they're starting to be able to threaten supernatural creatures.

Guns absolutely fall behind magic when it comes to killing; it's just that they're catching up.

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that's true.  I have argued that the best thing for Lord Raith would be a .50 cal sniper round to the head (since magic slips off of him).  It's not as much the weapons but the training required for wizards working as a military unit would diminish their use of magic I think.  Like Jim saying that wizards tools require a lot of weekly up keep to function.  Seems like the training required for traditional military conflict, + magical weapons upkeep seems like they would do little else than prepare for war which doesn't sound like their style.

Ulfgeir:

--- Quote from: groinkick on July 18, 2017, 08:32:45 PM ---that's true.  I have argued that the best thing for Lord Raith would be a .50 cal sniper round to the head (since magic slips off of him). 

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And given that such weapon could be used at a supposedly safe range (current world record for longest confirmed kill is at almost 3.5 km now as far as I know). Now, the question is wether or not he would be able to sense the bullet approaching, and then move out of the way due to his super-speed.

/Ulfgeir

Shift8:
An even easier way to kill Raith would be a JDAM to the Raith Mansion. Plus you'd wipe out quite a few Wamps. One does wonder why McCoy didnt do this already. If your going to drop a Sat on Ortega, you might as well take out the Wamps too.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: Ulfgeir on July 18, 2017, 08:47:47 PM ---And given that such weapon could be used at a supposedly safe range (current world record for longest confirmed kill is at almost 3.5 km now as far as I know). Now, the question is wether or not he would be able to sense the bullet approaching, and then move out of the way due to his super-speed.

/Ulfgeir

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I think a sniper like Kincaid would be successful for 3 reasons

1.  He wouldn't hear it coming because the bullet moves faster than sound
2.  His energy reserves are either gone, or nearly gone so he's not that powerful
3.  He didn't dodge the bullets Harry shot him with so it might be beyond his ability to do


--- Quote from: Shift8 on July 19, 2017, 02:08:35 AM ---An even easier way to kill Raith would be a JDAM to the Raith Mansion. Plus you'd wipe out quite a few Wamps. One does wonder why McCoy didnt do this already. If your going to drop a Sat on Ortega, you might as well take out the Wamps too.

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It does make you wonder....

Sully:

--- Quote from: Shift8 on July 18, 2017, 12:18:05 AM ---I dont think it can really be argued that learning how to use a gun would somehow hinder the use of magic. Regular mortals IRL learn more than one skill in addition to using a gun. You can go to school for engineering and still be a special forces person. For the same reason you can play in the NBA and go to school for something useful. When you add in that wizards live for centuries, this becomes even more moot

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I don't really agree-people who learn multiple skills to a professional or elite level are exceedingly rare.

In the US military, you probably not going to be pursuing an engineering degree while serving in a combat unit.  If you're in med school as active duty-THAT is your job, not preparing for/fighting war.

Some NBA players pursue degrees in summer, but not during the season. And being in the playoffs wouldn't allow summer classes either. For NCAA players in major sports, actually getting a good education is an aberration, not the norm.

Sure a bit of versatility is always welcome. But your average wizard is likely better served by becoming a better wizard, rather than worrying about 'muggle' skills.

I'll offer a real world example as a rebuttal: the minimum salary in the NBA is over $400000.  Is an NBA player better served by finishing that accounting degree, or becoming a better basketball player and chasing a max contract(20 million+ a season).

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