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Rasins:
I'm undecided if Nick is going to come after Harry or not.

I'm certain that Nick hates Harry, but of all the villains we've met, Nick, I think is the most focused on his goals.

Now, if Nick can work into his plans a way to kill Harry, he most certainly will.  And based on his stated purpose of acquiring the grail in SG, Harry didn't spoil his plan.

So, I think that while Nick would love to end Harry, I think he'll focus on fulfilling his goals elsewhere from Chicago.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: jonas on July 11, 2017, 04:31:52 AM ---This is always brought up, but how do we know the noose doesn't protect itself? A two millennia old piece of rope that didn't snap as harry pulled on it in earnest and was farther unaffected by the cold lake water? just like the shroud of Turin, that thing shoulda fallen to threads. It didn't though.

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The noose itself is definitely unnaturally resistant to destruction. I'm pretty sure there's even a WOJ about it, but the implicit text evidence is enough.

What it doesn't do, though, is heal the wearer absolutely immediately. Nic's wounds close when he gets shot, but it takes a distinguishable amount of time. Sufficiently violent overkill might not hurt the noose itself, but the strike only has to decapitate him and knock the noose loose.



--- Quote from: Quantus on July 11, 2017, 12:41:42 PM ---What's more, it can presumably protect him from huge Holy Swords attempting to decapitate him.  If anything could cut the Noose that would be it, and removing the Neck should be a reasonable way to remove a necklace. The Knights certainly seem to favor decapitation as a goto tactic (for good reason).

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Given how skilled he is at swordplay, it's possible that none of the Knights have ever managed to fully behead him in combat and see if it sticks. Cutting less than all the way through or too slow to knock the noose free before he starts healing isn't sufficient, and he's world-class at denying opponents the window for a clean strike. Massive explosives or an anti-tank round, on the other hand, do their damage in a few thousandths of a second.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on July 11, 2017, 05:31:26 PM ---Given how skilled he is at swordplay, it's possible that none of the Knights have ever managed to fully behead him in combat and see if it sticks. Cutting less than all the way through or too slow to knock the noose free before he starts healing isn't sufficient, and he's world-class at denying opponents the window for a clean strike. Massive explosives or an anti-tank round, on the other hand, do their damage in a few thousandths of a second.

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Fair Point, especially if the sword cannot directly damage the Noose.   

Mira:

--- Quote from: Quantus on July 11, 2017, 07:48:47 PM ---Fair Point, especially if the sword cannot directly damage the Noose.

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The noose is key to Nic's life..  Harry stopped short of killing Nic with it in Small Favor, Nic took it off when he "surrendered" to Murphy, along with the coin which he dropped.  The obvious is the noose is what Judas used to hang himself with, it is logical given the Holy Swords contain the Nails from the Cross.  However we know from WOJ that Nic isn't Judas, but there are plenty of hints that Nic did live around the time of Jesus.  Also though I said it is obvious that the noose is the one that hung Judas, that doesn't make it so.  Still I cannot help but believe there is a connection there some where, and it is an object of power of some kind.

jonas:

--- Quote from: Mira on July 12, 2017, 03:14:58 PM ---However we know from WOJ that Nic isn't Judas
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Evidence? Only woj I know of that mentions Judas talks about good bits of storytelling, but never denies or confirms this fact.

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