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jamescagney22:
1. In Turn Coat Listen to Winds mentions to Shagnasty that Harry nearly beat him without knowing the Dine yet alone the Old Ways. What other Old Ways was he referring to, since the Dine aka the Blessing Way seems to qualify as tradition in the oldest sense.
2. What did Listen to Winds and Ancient Mai do while the others were busy fighting the Grey Men? It did not seem like they accomplished anything notwithstanding the thrashing Listen to Winds gave to Shagnasty.

ClintACK:

--- Quote from: jamescagney22 on July 10, 2017, 07:14:33 AM ---1. In Turn Coat Listen to Winds mentions to Shagnasty that Harry nearly beat him without knowing the Dine yet alone the Old Ways. What other Old Ways was he referring to, since the Dine aka the Blessing Way seems to qualify as tradition in the oldest sense.
2. What did Listen to Winds and Ancient Mai do while the others were busy fighting the Grey Men? It did not seem like they accomplished anything notwithstanding the thrashing Listen to Winds gave to Shagnasty.

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1. The Dine is what the Navajo people call themselves.  The Old Ways would include the Blessing Way.

2. If I recall correctly, they were fighting the spider creatures.  Didn't LTW send a message asking Harry to ask the island to drop some trees that the spider creatures were using as shelter?

rlaubscher:
LTW told Harry what to do via his connection to Demonreach. The Gatekeeper was the one who clued them in to Harry's bond with the island. That's why LTW was up there and saw Harry fighting with the Skinwalker. LTW and Ancient Mai were acting as rear guard while Harry, Ebenezar, and his impromptu strike force battled the Grey Men...

jamescagney22:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on July 10, 2017, 10:38:56 AM ---1. The Dine is what the Navajo people call themselves.  The Old Ways would include the Blessing Way.

2. If I recall correctly, they were fighting the spider creatures.  Didn't LTW send a message asking Harry to ask the island to drop some trees that the spider creatures were using as shelter?

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Well Listen to Winds implied the Dine was a way of magic in this context. The full quote was "The boy almost took you and he doesn't even know the Dine much less the Old Ways." I thought this implied that the Blessing Way was separate or another form of the Old Ways whatever that is.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: jamescagney22 on July 10, 2017, 08:51:03 PM ---Well Listen to Winds implied the Dine was a way of magic in this context. The full quote was "The boy almost took you and he doesn't even know the Dine much less the Old Ways." I thought this implied that the Blessing Way was separate or another form of the Old Ways whatever that is.

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The Dine is the culture as a whole, apparently the only culture with any lore for Shaggy's kind. The Blessing Way is what their Holy Men practice, which I took to be an actual Faith Magic, as opposed to LTW (still religious) more arcane school of magic

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