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A Fistful of Warlocks (SPOILERS: FISTFUL OF WARLOCKS)
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: Desden on July 09, 2017, 05:21:55 PM ---I think it's more about the letter of the law and the way the magic is applied. If I cast fire on your face I have to believe in it and my right to do so for it to work, and thus I have killed with magic and broken the first rule.
If I cast fire on a candle and then use said candle to burn your bed I have broken no law of magic. I simply lit a candle. The rest was physics.
Moral I'm still guilty. Same as stabing someone through the neck with a sword. But by the law I'm clear
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You're safe from the Laws of Magic. But in that case, it wouldn't shock me a bit if the Wardens sent some anonymous mail to the local mundane authorities, either, if you're weak enough that they could handle you.
If you're too powerful for that, the Council might also decide that the 'grey area' just shrank in your case, too. I suspect that's one of the reasons there is a grey area.
Gman:
--- Quote from: Anubissama on July 07, 2017, 05:28:19 PM ---First impressions after reading it:
I liked it, I prefer a logical and reasonable protagonist, so Luccio's POV was a nice change compared to Dresden. Overall it was as enjoyable as one can expect from a short story, and I hope we will get "For A Few Warlocks More" soon enough.
I'd have liked to see a bit more talk from Kemmler, he seemed like a nice guy.
Now on to observations and problems:
- Anyone else notices that the pentagram the Necromancers were using was of the same design Nicodemus used in "Small Favour"? Is it just coincident? It might be just the go to pentagram for Warlocks, or maybe it is hinting at a connection?
- I see many people have a problem with Luccio considering burning down the place, I don't really agree.
First off it would probably fall under not breaking the Law since once summoned fire is fire, so it would be vanilla arson that killed people not Law braking here.
Besides Luccio had a good take on the Warlocks position (upstairs) and where the rest of the people are (downstairs) so evacuating them and avoiding causalities was possible IMO, also I think it is implied that the Wardens have a certain immunity when fulfilling their duties, they definitely don't get beheaded if a Warlock dies resisting arrest.
- Oh my god! Magical Glasses! I have been saying for years Dresden should get something like that
- It honestly feels a bit unrealistic that a vanilla sheriff can shoot down a 40+ sized horde of the Undead, especially with Wild West era weapons, those things weren't known for range and precision. Did they had even rifling back then?
- While I understand sending the bulk of you forces to the Sherif Office it feels unrealistic that Grevane wouldn't keep a few undead on the roof
- It is also odd that an experienced Wizard like Kemmler would leave blood and skin on his bonds when escaping, a quick fire spell to burn the ropes was too much of a hassle? Feels like an obvious trap.
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He was a clued in Sheriff Named Wyatt Earp. A man known for how to shoot and where to hit the target (the head) since he was clued in. He probably had 2 pistols (12 rounds). He probably can shoot rapidly and slowly retreat and reload as the low quality zombies attacked. A decent marksman could shoot 12 rounds in 30 seconds or less and reload both pistols in less than a minute. It's possible.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: Desden on July 09, 2017, 05:21:55 PM ---I think it's more about the letter of the law and the way the magic is applied. If I cast fire on your face I have to believe in it and my right to do so for it to work, and thus I have killed with magic and broken the first rule.
If I cast fire on a candle and then use said candle to burn your bed I have broken no law of magic. I simply lit a candle. The rest was physics.
Moral I'm still guilty. Same as stabing someone through the neck with a sword. But by the law I'm clear
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If you use a gust of wind to blow someone off a roof, you're guilty under the Law (and tainted metaphysically), even though technically it's the gravity doing the killing.
Desden:
Exactly. But I'd you use wind to blow sand into someone's eyes causing them the trip off the roof that's fair game
Aminar:
--- Quote from: Anubissama on July 08, 2017, 06:19:55 PM ---First I thought that it was Page (as the new recruit) that is doing the summoning but he is just the drummer. Later in the fight, Grevane redirects some zombies to the roof to attack her, so he was the summoner.
I guess he wanted to be able to throw some evocation around as well if needed? Since in Dead Beat, he summons full powered Zombies and it takes up to much of his energy that he can only attack with mundane weapons besides that.
Okay, still feels unrealistic that a Vanilla Sheriff mowed down a 40+ hoard of zombies, especially when for a good part of it, he was out on the street and the hoard was reportedly approaching from both sides, at some point he should have been surrounded. Feels to nice of an ending simply, no one got hurt, and Luccio has a hot trail to pursue Kemmler (although that one is probably a trap).
This story gives Necromancers a bad rap!
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What you're missing is that this is Wyatt Earp. Wyatt Earp. He's a literal legend. Documentaries are made about him. He's taught about in American schools. Having him be anything other than strictly epic would ruin the cameo and feel off to anyone with enough knowledge of both American History and Alt-history genre savvy. So no, it doesn't give necromancers a bad name. It holds true to the legends of the source material in the same way making Odin terrifyingly powerful does.
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