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The most frightening Denarian yet?
groinkick:
--- Quote from: jamescagney22 on July 04, 2017, 04:26:57 AM ---I believe you have to be mortal to be affected by the Fallen, Dragons are semi-divine they are immutable. But an Nemesis infected Dragon might cause a Civil War amongst the other Dragons and Kaiju, or any other supernatural powers whatever causes the most Chaos.
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Jim described the Angels as immutable when it comes to Nemesis infection. If a Dragon is immutable I don't see why they would be vulnerable to Nemesis infection.
--- Quote ---have limitations when in the mortal realm.
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Perhaps but the attack on Arctis tor wasn't in the mortal realm.
There could be rules on the issue making a Dragon unable to take up a Coin.... A Bigfoot took up a Coin, and Goodman Grey was offered a Coin so we can assume he could take it up. Coins aren't limited to mortals.
Griffyn612:
The coins are silver denari, not gold.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: groinkick on July 04, 2017, 12:57:22 AM ---2. There was an attack on Arctis Tor, and when Harry saw the damage he commented that he couldn't have done that much damage even with Hellfire. Well a Dragon using hellfire probably could.
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Harry had a mere shadow of a Fallen in his head, and some of the Denarians were stronger in their own right than he was as of PG. I would not conclude that the magnitude of damage there could only be attributed to inhumanly powerful hosts - Namshiel probably could have done it alone, or in combination with Tessa and / or Rosanna.
--- Quote from: groinkick on July 04, 2017, 05:08:23 AM ---A Bigfoot took up a Coin, and Goodman Grey was offered a Coin so we can assume he could take it up. Coins aren't limited to mortals.
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They're still a great deal closer to mortal-kind than they are to Dragons. I can't really see any of the Fallen risking bonding to something that might realistically be more powerful than they themselves are, and possibly getting stuck as the junior partner.
I'd buy Dragons being susceptible to N-fection more plausibly than them being suitable for coins, but I'm not yet convinced Ferrovax was targeted with either. It seems a little unsurprising for them to have played the same trick on him that they got Lea with, at this point, and the coin theory would just be upscaling the same surprise that the Genoskwa was already used for. I kind of think Jim will have something more out of left field for Mr. Ferro's next appearance.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: groinkick on July 04, 2017, 05:08:23 AM ---Jim described the Angels as immutable when it comes to Nemesis infection. If a Dragon is immutable I don't see why they would be vulnerable to Nemesis infection.
Perhaps but the attack on Arctis tor wasn't in the mortal realm.
There could be rules on the issue making a Dragon unable to take up a Coin.... A Bigfoot took up a Coin, and Goodman Grey was offered a Coin so we can assume he could take it up. Coins aren't limited to mortals.
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Goodman Grey and Bigfoot are mortals, I think. From the supernatural POV, I suspect they would count as human. I'm pretty sure they, and the White Court, for this purpose count as 'free willed mortals'. You can be mortal and still have a real long lifespan and supernatural power. Harry is mortal, even though he could theoretically live 400 years and can throw around fireballs.
Lawgiver:
Years ago, in a television interview, actor Vincent Price was asked, based on his career in horror films, what he considered the most frightening Hollywood Movie Monster was.
His reply: "A man without a conscience."
The Denarians that are so subsumed by the dark angels in their coins don't count; they're more animal than human.
To me, Nicodemus himself is the worst of the lot for the reason Price pointed out. He's a man - intelligent, educated, utterly ruthless and all but devoid of conscience (issues of his daughter aside). He is capable of truly horrific acts that would be found few other places... certainly nowhere in the natural animal kingdom on Earth. One would have to go to the realms of the supernatural to find equal or worse.
Just a thought
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