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The most frightening Denarian yet?
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Lawgiver on July 05, 2017, 05:04:37 PM ---Years ago, in a television interview, actor Vincent Price was asked, based on his career in horror films, what he considered the most frightening Hollywood Movie Monster was.
His reply: "A man without a conscience."
The Denarians that are so subsumed by the dark angels in their coins don't count; they're more animal than human.
To me, Nicodemus himself is the worst of the lot for the reason Price pointed out. He's a man - intelligent, educated, utterly ruthless and all but devoid of conscience (issues of his daughter aside). He is capable of truly horrific acts that would be found few other places... certainly nowhere in the natural animal kingdom on Earth. One would have to go to the realms of the supernatural to find equal or worse.
Just a thought
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He has a conscience. Not much of one, or a twisted one but he has one. The Joker from the Dark Knight.... That was a person without a conscience
Quantus:
--- Quote from: groinkick on July 04, 2017, 05:08:23 AM ---Jim described the Angels as immutable when it comes to Nemesis infection. If a Dragon is immutable I don't see why they would be vulnerable to Nemesis infection.
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Nemesis doesnt require a Mortal Soul, but a Fallen does. They need a host with Free Will, the same what the Queens need a Knight with it.
--- Quote ---There could be rules on the issue making a Dragon unable to take up a Coin.... A Bigfoot took up a Coin, and Goodman Grey was offered a Coin so we can assume he could take it up. Coins aren't limited to mortals.
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Goodman Grey still has his Free Will, per WOJ. And apparently the Bigfoots are just an offshoot hominid, but native to the Mortal World. White Court are Ageless and "Half-born" but not truly Immortal by the definition provided in CD.
Rasins:
I'm more of the opinion of ... Why?
It seems to me that when created, Dragons were created with the purpose of guarding certain aspects of reality. Angels were created for a similar purpose (sort of).
It seems like a fallen trying to influence, or even take over a Dragon would have a major hard time of it. Also, wouldn't the knowledge that a Fallen has be more or less redundant for a Dragon?
I just don't see the benefit of a dragon with a coin.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Rasins on July 13, 2017, 02:46:38 PM ---I'm more of the opinion of ... Why?
It seems to me that when created, Dragons were created with the purpose of guarding certain aspects of reality. Angels were created for a similar purpose (sort of).
It seems like a fallen trying to influence, or even take over a Dragon would have a major hard time of it. Also, wouldn't the knowledge that a Fallen has be more or less redundant for a Dragon?
I just don't see the benefit of a dragon with a coin.
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Presumably there would be Power in addition to any redundant Knowledge. But also the Angels are a hell of a lot older than most things even at the divine level; Im not sure if the Dragons (semi-divine though they might be) are at that "Predating Reality, Absolute and immune to Nemesis" level that Angels are purported to be.
Rasins:
--- Quote from: Quantus on July 13, 2017, 07:21:45 PM ---Presumably there would be Power in addition to any redundant Knowledge. But also the Angels are a hell of a lot older than most things even at the divine level; Im not sure if the Dragons (semi-divine though they might be) are at that "Predating Reality, Absolute and immune to Nemesis" level that Angels are purported to be.
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I was talking about taking up a coin, not being nemfected. I believe that there may be an issue with Ferrofax, but I doubt its either a fallen or nemesis.
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