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Outsider Magic

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Mira:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on June 24, 2017, 09:36:11 AM ---I assumed that had to do with the ending of Grave Peril -- when Harry, in spirit form, ate the ghost of Kravos and consumed his magic.  That seems like the closest thing to necromancy Harry did before Sue.

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I wouldn't call it that..  Harry was dead when he did it, he had prearranged for  Susan to give him CPR to bring him back once he had done it.. 

BadHumours:
I always thought Grevane was detecting the ball of necromancy that Evil Bob just tried to kill Harry with a chapter or two before. I don't have my copy handy, so I can't look it up.

peregrine:

--- Quote from: Mira on June 24, 2017, 07:57:24 PM ---I wouldn't call it that..  Harry was dead when he did it, he had prearranged for  Susan to give him CPR to bring him back once he had done it..

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Dead or not, he consumed the spirit and power of another being.  Even if not necessarily necromancy, it's vile enough that I could see it being the kind of True Magic Grevane was talking about.

ClintACK:
Oh... yeah, BadHumours is right.  He was probably detecting Evil Bob's magic on Harry.


But I'd definitely say what Harry did to Kravos's ghost was necromancy.  It's pretty much *exactly* what Corpsetaker tried to do in Ghost Story, remember.

Anubissama:
I'm sorry but Cowl is specifically implied NOT to use Outsider Magic. Making him the exception amongst advance Dark Magic users.

Whenever we are dealing with Outsider Magic Butcher tends to use words like oozing, sticky, vile etc. Lovecraftian words for short. While Cowls magic is described as cold, surgical, and dark, yes evil but not the Outsider type.

Harry even makes a point to compare it to his own Magic at darker moments. Which leads me personally to believe that there is a kind of Higher Dark Magic, that is free of Outsider Infection, most people just don't have the mental fortitude or will to get past the easier Outsider corrupted version and end up using that instead of Higher Dark Magic.

If that Higher Dark Magic does mentally corrupt you or not is anybody's guess, but at least it seems there is a path of Dark Magic that doesn't automatically mean using or working with Outsiders.

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