The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Can a Wizard's Powers be Stolen or Taken permanently?
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: groinkick on June 28, 2017, 02:15:49 AM ---I will answer this stuff but before I do what are you talking about with regards to his wife? I don't know anything about it.
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There's a somewhat-recent WOJ that one of the events Ebenezer lists to Harry in Blood Rites was Ebenezer dishing out some wrath on people who tried to get to him by attacking his wife. It's not in the compilation yet, I don't think.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on June 28, 2017, 02:24:26 AM ---There's a somewhat-recent WOJ that one of the events Ebenezer lists to Harry in Blood Rites was Ebenezer dishing out some wrath on people who tried to get to him by attacking his wife. It's not in the compilation yet, I don't think.
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Oh ok. I'm going to answer your questions in a new topic because the talk of the Blackstaff has kind of hijacked someone elses subject
Zaphodess:
--- Quote from: groinkick on June 23, 2017, 10:22:58 PM ---My guess is it would fall under necromancy. The only time we have seen it done is when Harry's magic was stolen, and when he took it back. So to actually take a wizards magic would probably require someone to leave their own body, consume the magic, and return to their body. Harry didn't use necromancy but he didn't go after a person either, just a spirit. To go after a person might require going further into the realm of death which can only happen if necromancy is involved I think. At least that's how I think it could happen.
If it is possible for one wizard to do it to another wizard it would have to be pretty risk, and dark magic. If it was easy to do someone like Kemmler would have just targeted wizards to consume their magic. He would grow greatly in strength, and remove threats to himself all at the same time. Cowl for example could just target all members of the Senior Council... It hasn't happened though. So either not possible for a mortal wizard to do, or highly risky stuff.
The risk would probably be my idea of leaving ones body... While the spirit is out of the body it is probably at great risk of either being contained, resulting in permanent death, or while outside of the body, the body is defenseless, and open to attack.
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Oh, I think that's exactly how Kemmler and his disciples got so powerful. They stole magic from other practitioners, spirits and creatures. You're right that it can't be easy or risk-free, but that's not saying it can't be done.
And I think that Harry actually did it in GP: He practised Necromancy and got Kravos power that way. He broke the fifth Law already.
Rasins:
See, I'd suggest that stealing power from another Wizard, and leaving them alive would be more of invading the mind of another against their will, than Necromancy.
If you kill them, then it would be a violation of the first law AND maybe invading the mind, or necromancy.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Zaphodess on June 28, 2017, 08:24:55 AM ---And I think that Harry actually did it in GP: He practised Necromancy and got Kravos power that way. He broke the fifth Law already.
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Nah, in GP that was already a ghost he was battling so its not (legally) against the Law, and given that the actual mechanism used was Harry recovering his own Life Energy rather than tapping Necromantic energy, I think it's safe from that Law too (both legally and metaphysically), and it would presumably thus fall into the Ectomancy category.
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