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On Nemesis and Why it can't / doesn't infect Humans

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ClintACK:

--- Quote from: Rasins on June 02, 2017, 11:52:07 PM ---If it could, why would it not infect a Wizard, and have them simply summon outsider after outsider after outsider into reality until there is an overwhelming force?

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Because summoning requires Free Will - which is why it requires a human.

So you can't compel someone to do it, and a possessing spirit can't do it using a human meat suit.

You have to persuade an uncompelled/uninfected human to do it.

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: groinkick on June 03, 2017, 05:43:22 AM ---I didn't read it the same as you.  I pictured a number of Outsiders, but more like in the dozens.

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Harry guesstimated more before he even saw their full numbers. 

--- Quote ---Things were swarming up out of the lake, hideous and fascinating—hundreds of them.

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And if I read it correctly, this was only a portion of the attack force working with one of three barges.

Mira:


But some of the Fae or actually many of the Fae began as changelings.. Mab herself admits to being human once, Molly is human and as time goes on she will become more Fae... We know in Proven Guilty that presumably Mab was treating herself along with Lea for possible infection..  So if humans are immune, are half humans immune?  Are Fae who once were human immune?

peregrine:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on June 03, 2017, 11:30:37 AM ---Because summoning requires Free Will - which is why it requires a human.

So you can't compel someone to do it, and a possessing spirit can't do it using a human meat suit.

You have to persuade an uncompelled/uninfected human to do it.

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Isn't one of the major dangers to the White Council the possibility that a wizard would be turned and then the Vampire Wizard would be able to open the doors to an outsider?

forumghost:

--- Quote from: peregrine on June 03, 2017, 09:05:15 PM ---Isn't one of the major dangers to the White Council the possibility that a wizard would be turned and then the Vampire Wizard would be able to open the doors to an outsider?

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Nope.


--- Quote from: Dead Beat ---
"I thought only mortal magic could call up Outsiders," I said quietly.

Luccio said quietly, "You are correct."
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It's what had everyone's cage rattled about it in-story- the Outsider Presence proved the Red's had Human Wizards in the Roster.

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