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How Harry would do the Dark Hallow in Changes wag

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Rasins:
That's what I kind of thought.

Though I wonder if the vampire side would have survived from the half-turned.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Cozarkian on July 18, 2017, 06:13:58 PM ---The Erlking doesn't have free will, so it doesn't matter how smart he is or whether he knew the darkhallow was happening. He was summoned to lead the hunt in Chicago and had no choice but to do so, even if it means his death.

Using the straw analogy, I think Harry could have absorbed the power from the human sacrifices and the Reds nearby would have died to fill the void.

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Hmmm, interesting idea!  I never considered that it could be reversed, where a giant ball of /Life/ magic might create a vacuum to suck in Necromancy. 

I feel like it shouldnt be a reversible process like that, but I think that's just from unconscious carry-over from my understanding of Thermal energy and vacuum pressure, as my go-to analogies to the Life/Death magic dichotomy. 

peregrine:

--- Quote from: Cozarkian on July 18, 2017, 06:13:58 PM ---The Erlking doesn't have free will, so it doesn't matter how smart he is or whether he knew the darkhallow was happening. He was summoned to lead the hunt in Chicago and had no choice but to do so, even if it means his death.

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I disagree slightly.  Lack of Free Will means he can't go against his nature.  It doesn't mean he has to do whatever anyone tells him to do.  Depending on what's going on, his sense of self preservation may overrule his job as leader of the Hunt.  He did after all throw the fight with Harry in Cold Days.

Also, he wasn't summoned to lead the hunt, he was specifically summoned NOT to lead the hunt.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: peregrine on July 18, 2017, 09:26:02 PM ---I disagree slightly.  Lack of Free Will means he can't go against his nature.  It doesn't mean he has to do whatever anyone tells him to do.  Depending on what's going on, his sense of self preservation may overrule his job as leader of the Hunt.  He did after all throw the fight with Harry in Cold Days.

Also, he wasn't summoned to lead the hunt, he was specifically summoned NOT to lead the hunt.

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I'd argue that risk assessment and self-preservation in the face of powerful threats is 100% in line with his predatory nature.  After all "“When hunt­ing a fox, one must be wary not to fol­low it in­to the great bear’s lair.  This is com­mon sense for any hunter, by my reck­on­ing.” (Erlking, Changes ch 36).

peregrine:
Yeah.  I'm just arguing with the idea that the Erlking must show up and stick his head through the noose, risking his death just because he lacks Free Will.

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