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Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Quantus on May 24, 2017, 07:14:59 PM ---||WAG Notice||

Unless you do, and it's call Black Magic and Going Warlock.  Or Dark Lord, in the case of a SC member.

So really, you only see Eb not getting Nemfected.  Which makes sense given who the Blackstaff used to belong to and who her real enemy is.

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Makes you wonder if the Blackstaff can cure infection, and Eb possessing it doomed Maeve.

Avernite:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on May 24, 2017, 09:16:57 PM ---Makes you wonder if the Blackstaff can cure infection, and Eb possessing it doomed Maeve.

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I can totally see Harry beating himself up over that. "If only I had told Eb he could have helped cure Maeve, save Molly, and as an aside make Mab as good as adore me."

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Avernite on May 24, 2017, 09:45:10 PM ---I can totally see Harry beating himself up over that. "If only I had told Eb he could have helped cure Maeve, save Molly, and as an aside make Mab as good as adore me."

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Don't get me wrong, I still think cooperation would have been required.  That was the only difference between Maeve and Lea.  One wanted to be cured.  But I'm sure Harry wishes he knew about it, or the prison option. 

Aminar:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on May 24, 2017, 09:16:57 PM ---Makes you wonder if the Blackstaff can cure infection, and Eb possessing it doomed Maeve.

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It doesn't really add up. Going Warlock is a strictly mortal thing. How would Sith have gone Warlock? Whatever taint Black Magic brings, it's a separate thing.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: RobReece on May 24, 2017, 04:14:37 PM ---You say her mother was murdered? Do you have a source for that?  As I recall, Ivy's mother was young(upper teens maybe twenty something?) and in love, when her mother was killed in a car crash, Ivy's mom flipped out over becoming the Archive and no longer having "her" life, that as soon as Ivy was born, she committed suicide.

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The bit about Ivy's grandmother being murdered isn't confirmed by WOJ, it's just a widely held forum theory that the car "accident" was artificially induced, on the basis that the Archive's host would be a compulsively cautious driver and able to shield against any accident she had any warning of. People generally attribute the presumed hit to either one of the opposition factions in the Oblivion War trying to shuffle the deck to get a less effective coordinator for the Venatori Umbrorum, or Nic trying to lay groundwork for a plot against Ivy's mom on broadly similar terms to what they tried in SmF, but he miscalculated just how badly she'd take it (which would explain why Kincaid hates Nic, since he was friends with Ivy's mom).

Personally, I'm not entirely sold on the whole theory. It's definitely plausible, but so is the accident just being random.

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