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Has anyone put Nic's plan togther?
Drikonn:
I have a feeling Nicodemus is going to turn out to be instrumental in bringing down the big bad. He's making choices that a "moral" person wouldn't because someone has to be willing to throwaway a million lives to save seven billion. While Harry will ultimately tell him to take a flying leap of a high building, I think he's playing the chess master role. Why would he want to save the world? Because he lives in it and being a mindslave or a corpse isn't an option. The world needs to keep turning if he's going to enslave it himself.
forumghost:
Nah, I think Nicko is the ones that's gonna fuck everything up. Remember, Jim's plan was for 20 Books, with a Denarian Book every 5.
Which means that Nick is in for one final run before the BAT hits. I think that in Book 20 he's going to win, and that event will be what sparks the BAT.
Zaphodess:
--- Quote from: forumghost on July 02, 2017, 01:55:32 PM ---Nah, I think Nicko is the ones that's gonna fuck everything up. Remember, Jim's plan was for 20 Books, with a Denarian Book every 5.
Which means that Nick is in for one final run before the BAT hits. I think that in Book 20 he's going to win, and that event will be what sparks the BAT.
--- End quote ---
Interesting idea. There's this WoJ that Faith Astor from Restoration of Faith will be crucial to starting the BAT. Maybe she got one of the Coins and that's what sends her on the road.
Drikonn:
I think it'll actually be him trying to stop it and subsequently getting foiled by the dumbass wizard that makes a habit of kicking out tent poles and looking smug about it
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Arjan on July 02, 2017, 06:40:47 AM ---Nicodemus wouldn't appear in dead beat to do a darkhallow even if the information was given to him on a silver plate. Anduriel would not like it.
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I'm sure Anduriel wouldn't like his host getting that powerful, true - but I don't think someone without inherent use of magic could do enough necromancy to work the Darkhallow, either.
--- Quote from: Arjan on May 13, 2017, 07:53:34 PM ---You mean what delusion Anduriel sold him? Do you really think it is that important :)
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Anduriel might manipulate him about tactics-level decisions for expediency and to shape an even more corrupted host (like 'kill your daughter for the sake of the mission') but I don't think it follows that Nic is duped about the broad cause they're working toward.
I think from Nic and Deirdre's dialogues, the general outline of their thinking is pretty much analogous to how Cowl rationalized pursuing the Darkhallow (presumably because Kumori was within earshot) - the established order is so fragile SOMEBODY is going to succeed in overturning it, so it might as well be the less bad option. I think the Denarians who willingly cooperate with their Fallen believe Hell's apocalypse stands the best chance of averting the even worse Outsider version, so they're gathering power for that cause. The Archive's functions in coordinating the Oblivion War could easily have been adapted to tracking down Outsider cultists for assassination, and Hades was quite open about confirming the artifacts were weapons.
The plague plot in DM might even have been connected somehow - perhaps culling back the mortal population would have hurt their rivals (fewer summoners for Outsiders, less food for the Red Court, fewer practitioners for the Fomor to kidnap for their plans) in addition to the vague description that the Denarians get stronger by spreading suffering.
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