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Playing Lawbreaking characters
Cadd:
My specific gripe with the Lawbreaker powers as they stand, is that while the Refresh/Free Will thing is thematic, I feel that in action it leads to an inversion of how the books describe warlocks trying to walk the straight and narrow, such as Harry and Molly.
Lawbreakers are usually described as more powerful than those with the same amount of training/experience, but fighting urges to resort to lawbreaking magic. Meanwhile by RAW a Lawbreaker PC will not be able to pick up as many Refinements (or anything else enhancing their magic) as a non-lawbreaker PC at the same power level. This means that in any situation besides breaking the same law, they will actually be weaker than a non-lawbreaker character.
potestas:
in all sincerity your issue isnt with the game you have a hate for Christianity and or anything that might resemble it however remotely. Unfortunately for you the writer of the books used some of these concepts in his books and they have been transmitted to the game. Its an easy fix just ignore the rules no need for all the anger.
Wanderer:
--- Quote from: potestas on May 30, 2017, 05:08:12 PM ---in all sincerity your issue isnt with the game you have a hate for Christianity and or anything that might resemble it however remotely. Unfortunately for you the writer of the books used some of these concepts in his books and they have been transmitted to the game. Its an easy fix just ignore the rules no need for all the anger.
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I make no mystery of the fact that dealing with fiction or games that make Abrahamic religion (especially of the fundamentalist kind) factually true and morally right in terms of how the Universe works makes me very annoyed and uncomfortable, to the point I may have serious difficulties playing or reading/watching them. E.g. from memory, the author's enthusiastic validation of Medieval Christian thought and morality in the series is why I was never able to read much of Christopher Stasheff's A Wizard In Rhyme, despite my love of fantasy; the setting's favoritism for Abrahamic monotheism I why I have serious trouble playing Steve Jackson Games' In Nomine, unless perhaps with demon or ethereal characters rebelling against Heavenly tyranny; and Judeo-Christian influence on the WoD games' morality systems made them a major and recurrent source of annoyance and controversy for me, short of extensive houseruling. As it concerns the Dresdenverse itself, it seems clear to me in all likelihood I'd only be able to read and enjoy the series if I can make a very concerned and successful effort to ignore the Christian elements you speak of in the setting. Fortunately, the author did not include such elements in other series I enjoyed, such as the Codex Alera. Admittedly, it is usually easier to houserule a RPG game than to make one's reading or watching headcanon of a book, movie, or TV series.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Wanderer on May 31, 2017, 08:58:46 PM ---I make no mystery of the fact that dealing with fiction or games that make Abrahamic religion (especially of the fundamentalist kind) factually true and right in terms of how the Universe works makes me very annoyed and uncomfortable, to the point I may have very serious difficulties playing or reading/watching them. E.g. from memory, the author's enthusiastic validation of Medieval Christian thought and morality in the series is why I was never able to read much of Christopher Stasheff's A Wizard In Rhyme, despite my love of fantasy; the setting's favoritism for Abrahamic monotheism I why I have serious trouble playing Steve Jackson Games' In Nomine, unless perhaps with demon or ethereal characters rebelling against Heavenly tyranny; and Judeo-Christian influence on the WoD games' morality systems made them a major and recurrent source of annoyance and controversy for me, short of extensive houseruling. As it concerns the Dresdenverse itself, It is by now clear to me I'd only be able to read and enjoy the series if I can make a very concerned and successful effort to ignore the Christian elements in the setting.
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I dont know most of those examples personally, but that's... a pretty broad definition of objectionable content. Urban Fantasy as a whole might be a tough realm to navigate.
For what it's worth, Jim has stated several times that in the Dresden setting All religions and Myths are present and represented, and has said that the main reason he's not focusing more on other religions (eastern ones or the Hawaiian mythology are the examples I recall off-hand) was because he was far less personally familiar with those religions and would want to do the research and come up to speed on them better before giving them much screen time, simply so that he could do so properly, not wanting to be disrespectful to somebody's religion out of ignorance.
Taran:
--- Quote from: potestas on May 30, 2017, 05:08:12 PM ---in all sincerity your issue isnt with the game you have a hate for Christianity and or anything that might resemble it however remotely. Unfortunately for you the writer of the books used some of these concepts in his books and they have been transmitted to the game. Its an easy fix just ignore the rules no need for all the anger.
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--- Quote from: Wanderer on May 31, 2017, 08:58:46 PM ---I make no mystery of the fact that dealing with fiction or games that make Abrahamic religion (especially of the fundamentalist kind) factually true and right in terms of how the Universe works makes me very annoyed and uncomfortable, to the point I may have very serious difficulties playing or reading/watching them. E.g. from memory, the author's enthusiastic validation of Medieval Christian thought and morality in the series is why I was never able to read much of Christopher Stasheff's A Wizard In Rhyme, despite my love of fantasy; the setting's favoritism for Abrahamic monotheism I why I have serious trouble playing Steve Jackson Games' In Nomine, unless perhaps with demon or ethereal characters rebelling against Heavenly tyranny; and Judeo-Christian influence on the WoD games' morality systems made them a major and recurrent source of annoyance and controversy for me, short of extensive houseruling. As it concerns the Dresdenverse itself, It is by now clear to me I'd only be able to read and enjoy the series if I can make a very concerned and successful effort to ignore the Christian elements in the setting.
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I just take it with a grain of salt. When I read fantasy based on Greek Mythology, I don't assume the author is trying to force polytheistic concepts down my throat. I just assume that that's the way the Universe works. I just finished reading Percy Jackson with my son and there's no assumption that there's a monotheistic god and I don't really feel there should be.
It's fantasy afterall.
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