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When Winter took over at the Outer Gates [Spoilers all, including the DFARPG]

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knnn:

--- Quote from: Quantus on December 22, 2016, 07:23:04 PM ---Obviously:P

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See, the fact that Uriel makes a point of highlighting passages and writing in the margins of Tolkien's book implies that "Ronald Reuel" was "in" on some important secrets.   The fact that the Mantle of "bearer of the One Ring" was passed on when the bearer reached the age of 111 is a secret clue that the Mantle "born" (or created) at Hastings is modified and passed on 111 years later...

...yeah, I'm going a little crazy with work right now.

CloakedDestiny:
You know, I never actually made that connection. Reuel is basically Tolkien in the Dresdenverse (although the actual Tolkien may be a different guy). Uriel specifically leaves a LOTR book out for Dresden in SmF. If Reuel is actually Tolkien...well, I don't know where to go with that but it's really neat.

Avernite:

--- Quote from: CloakedDestiny on December 23, 2016, 07:05:00 AM ---You know, I never actually made that connection. Reuel is basically Tolkien in the Dresdenverse (although the actual Tolkien may be a different guy). Uriel specifically leaves a LOTR book out for Dresden in SmF. If Reuel is actually Tolkien...well, I don't know where to go with that but it's really neat.

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Maybe that makes LotR the anti-Grimm? As in, Grimm's tales were commissioned by Mab to preserve power for the Fae, but Tolkien's stories shifted a lot of understanding round and away from them (including, most clearly articulated in the books, the Goblins being downgraded to 'meh').

Perhaps, it fits. Most of the summery types in LotR come across as strong, with flaws to be sure, but important and viable (not least of which Feänor, the gloriously summery hero who literally burns up upon death). The wintery types are all wicked and frankly degraded mirrors. And the dwarves were Tolkien's take o the Svartalves, which is why he ahd to play nice around them.

rad:
*puts on tinfoil hat*  The Winter/Summer could have started in a way that had nothing to do with the courts.  If you look back to the old Olympian myths and Skin Game when Hades got hitched Hecate(hint hint) distracts mother in law Demeter so Persephone and him can be left in peace.  Now then, we've got Hecate *cough mother winter cough* and the goddess of the summer and fertility together.  Another part of the myth is when Persephone spent time away from Demeter, Demeter got sad and this is what causes winter.  Maybe, rather than this causing the actual seasons this was the beginning of what would eventually become the courts. 

Maybe, back when the gods stepped down from defending the Outer Gates they created the Shide (crossing wildfae, mortals, and maybe an Olympian) to be their new partly mortal foot soldiers who would not be effected by the waning beliefs of mortals as the gods were.  Then, Hecate and Demeter were put in charge of them which created the Courts. 

Though Hestia, another one of the twelve Olympians who was the goddess of the hearth, fire, and eldest of them could also be Mother Summer. 

Kannard:
so was Hades then the Warden, and Odin the Gatekeeper? I keep seeing similarities between certain characters and the traits that other characters have in common that could reflect the nature of the position they either hold or may have once held. 

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