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Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]

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jonas:

--- Quote from: Shift8 on July 21, 2017, 02:28:54 PM ---Given the GK's knowledge, and the fast that IIRC wizards life hundreds, not thousands of years, I think he meant alot sooner than that.

Also when someone says years, they usually mean a length of time less than a decade. Or you would just say your "decades, or centuries" away from being ready.

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Ok well your entitled to that opinion, just remember everybody else is entitled to theirs too. Like i'm of the opinion someone whose as ridiculously 'old' as the GK and the fact his time info funneling may mean he views time entirely different, means he probably doesn't think too deep on measuring it.

DonBugen:
Shift8 - yeah, it actually did start as pure speculation, but Jonas makes an excellent point.  When the Gatekeeper warns Harry in Turn Coat, he specifically does reference that drawing on the power could change him, and that he's not ready. "Do not tap into the power of this place's well.  You are years away from being able to handle such a thing without being altered by it."  It's true that this does mean that it's possible for Harry to draw on it and not  be changed, but I don't think that the Gatekeeper was counting on Harry taking that power, swirling it into a vortex, and drinking it to dramatically change his being into becoming a god.  Quite simply, using it for a working might change him.  Using it to form himself into a higher form of being would likely change him even more.

And yes, this is all still conjecture.  But it's good conjecture, backed up by solid fact and logical conclusions.  The best sort.  In any case, I don't think that Jim would have had a loophole so big that anyone could just do the Dark Hallow for free without negative consequence as long as they put in a Batman-sized level of planning.

jonas:

--- Quote ---put in a Batman-sized level of planning
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these emoji buttons don't work for me directly, but suffice it to say I literally laughed til I cried there.

Shift8:

--- Quote from: DonBugen on July 21, 2017, 03:05:09 PM ---Shift8 - yeah, it actually did start as pure speculation, but Jonas makes an excellent point.  When the Gatekeeper warns Harry in Turn Coat, he specifically does reference that drawing on the power could change him, and that he's not ready. "Do not tap into the power of this place's well.  You are years away from being able to handle such a thing without being altered by it."  It's true that this does mean that it's possible for Harry to draw on it and not  be changed, but I don't think that the Gatekeeper was counting on Harry taking that power, swirling it into a vortex, and drinking it to dramatically change his being into becoming a god.  Quite simply, using it for a working might change him.  Using it to form himself into a higher form of being would likely change him even more.

And yes, this is all still conjecture.  But it's good conjecture, backed up by solid fact and logical conclusions.  The best sort.  In any case, I don't think that Jim would have had a loophole so big that anyone could just do the Dark Hallow for free without negative consequence as long as they put in a Batman-sized level of planning.

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I would actually think it would be necessary for the DH not to alter people, otherwise it would be useless and no one would attempt it. No point in gaining power if your persona is so changed you forgot what you came to grocery store for.

jonas:

--- Quote from: Shift8 on July 21, 2017, 03:13:02 PM ---I would actually think it would be necessary for the DH not to alter people, otherwise it would be useless and no one would attempt it. No point in gaining power if your persona is so changed you forgot what you came to grocery store for.

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But nobodies ever used it, technically even Kemmler doesn't know for sure what would happen in the end, he only presumed. Maybe it is useless and crazy but nobody knows that?

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