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Should I feel offended?
Chiroptera:
Steampunk societies often portray alternative history and a post-apocalyptic future, and tend to maintain stylistic and cultural elements of the historical period it's drawn from.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Dina on October 29, 2015, 03:25:21 PM ---I had not been offended, only he was. And he has not finished it yet.
That said, I don't think that changes. As I said, the problem is not the actual characters, but the stereotype about the government.
And again, this is not a history book, it is probably a book about the future. So because there was a bad government all future governments would be bad?
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My biggest take-away from the scenes at the end was the idea that while the governments might be at war, even though loyalties and perspectives may be different, at least among the Aeronauts (our hero class, like Knights or Samurai or Musketeers) they are proven honorable, all proper Gentlemen Soldiers on both sides. I took it as the classic theme of Governments are all generally bad in their own ways, but that doesnt mean the Soldiers under tehir command cant be honorable folks that just want to protect their homes and families and way of life from outside attack.
But then, Im an American mutt; I dont have no strong feelings toward the cultures of my ancestors across the pond, we tend to idealize the era and motives that led us to break away too much for that sort of favorable link to remain (plus as a whole we Americans are jerks). So I dont have a very good analoge experience to compare to the Latin America/Spain feelings.
Dina:
Yep, the offensive part was against the governments.
(minor quarrel I've already said many times. i consider myself American too. I live in South America. I was raised believing i am a citizen of Earth, America, Argentina, Buenos Aires, Flores (that is my neighbourhood). The way people of USA have to refer themselves as the only Americans it's what we call "cultural colonialism". And it is something that irritates me specially when a Latin American said it too. it's contagious! And no, I don't believe people is USA is being mean with us, I just think they are oblivious)
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--- Quote from: Dina on October 29, 2015, 08:13:07 PM ---Yep, the offensive part was against the governments.
(minor quarrel I've already said many times. i consider myself American too. I live in South America. I was raised believing i am a citizen of Earth, America, Argentina, Buenos Aires, Flores (that is my neighbourhood). The way people of USA have to refer themselves as the only Americans it's what we call "cultural colonialism". And it is something that irritates me specially when a Latin American said it too. it's contagious! And no, I don't believe people is USA is being mean with us, I just think they are oblivious)
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Well, I can attest that I certainly was Oblivious, but Ill endeavor to get better about that. Sorry :-[
Rygar:
It's worth pointing out that there is no other term in the (US) American lexicon for ourselves. The idea that we are the only Americans seems to be waning at least.
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