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Should I feel offended?
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--- Quote from: Sully on November 19, 2015, 07:34:02 PM ---((Dina :-*))
Lack of malicious intent or genuine ignorance doesn't mean it can't be legitimately offensive, though.
I think some of the gay jokes in Dresden are cringeworthy bad(the earring conversation, especially). If "being ____" is the punchline, it's probably an insensitive, bad joke. Was it in character for Dresden? Absolutely. Do I think it was in poor taste and should've been left out? Yes, yes I do. Does it greatly upset me? No. Do I think Jim's editor should've gently said something like, 'you're making being gay a punchline, and that's kind of offensive. You try to be inclusive in so many ways-are you sure you want this in here?' to try and convince him to cut that joke? Yes. Hell, for all I know, that conversation happened, and Jim decided to leave it in.
On a side note, that byplay actually confused me a bit, because Harry and Thomas used the whole Tomás thing as an explicit criticism of bigotry...and then Harry makes off-color jokes in poor taste. ::)
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well, fwiw, when I read it I thought that the intended punchline was Harry's silly insecurities, rather than being gay. But looking back it might not have been there; it would have taking a jab from murphy or somebody to solidify the target of the joke as his own fragile ego. It would have in fact fit rather well with their budding flirtation in parts of the story.
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