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Intra-Habble Transportation
KevinSig:
I think there's a line or two, that suggests that Bridget's family is new to meat production, but that doesn't necessarily mean a new vat.
knnn:
--- Quote from: KevinSig on October 16, 2015, 09:37:05 AM ---I think there's a line or two, that suggests that Bridget's family is new to meat production, but that doesn't necessarily mean a new vat.
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Ah.
I know we have quotes about the possibility of them losing their vat because someone will buy them out, but I don't recall anything that indicates they capability of building new vatteries (e.g. to create more competition and put them out of business).
Brightbane:
--- Quote from: knnn on October 16, 2015, 03:11:06 AM ---You have a quote that says they can create new vats?
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Yeah
--- Quote ---Espira wove his way through the hectic streets of landing. Most habbles in every spire had modified the original spaces as designed by the Builders, adding in fortifications, additional housing, more vatteries, whatever was needed-
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knnn:
--- Quote from: Brightbane on October 16, 2015, 04:19:53 PM ---Yeah
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Nice! Good job finding that one.
Ok, so apparently the current residents have the technology to build new vatteries. That makes sense from a historical viewpoint (otherwise wear and tear would have done them all in by now), but does raise the issue of their technological level. After all , building a meat vattery is beyond our current tech level. Makes you wonder how they managed.
KeyMasterOfGozer:
This was an interesting thread, which got me to thinking about the spire structure and amount of living space. I came up with some inconsistencies in the numbers. I guess inconsistency is not the right word. Just different from what I was picturing.
--- Quote ---Lord Albion rose and took a couple of the large maps down from the wall behind him, revealing a to-scale rendering of the entire Spire. “Spire Albion,” he said. “Ten thousand feet high, two miles across. There are two hundred and fifty habbles, of which two hundred and thirty-six are occupied.
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Doing the math here 10,000 ft. / 250 Habbles = 40 ft. height per Habble. Note this also includes the thickness of the floor+ceiling.
But then we have:
--- Quote ---Habble Morning occupied the entirety of the Spire, most of it beneath a vast atrium nearly two hundred feet high, and it was the next-best thing to two miles from one side of the great cylinder that was Spire Albion to the other.
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This must mean that the Habbles are not all the same height. I guess it makes sense that Habble Morning is the biggest, since that is where the seat of government is.
Anyway, back to topic...
A Habble has about 2000 acres (3.14 mi^2). Knnn's numbers are good about farming. on Traditional sustainable farms, you can feed each person on 4 acres, but with vats and hydroponics, I believe that it makes sense that you could get a higher density yield. Especially since they are not necessarily growing the same inefficient crops and animals. Also, since you are not restricted to solar surface area, you can potentially stack those hydroponics and vats vertically and get a much denser yield per acre from that as well. After all, in the habble light for the crops would be coming from crystals.
Anyway, fun to think about.
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