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Intra-Habble Transportation
Brightbane:
--- Quote from: KeyMasterOfGozer on October 17, 2015, 05:10:26 AM ---This was an interesting thread, which got me to thinking about the spire structure and amount of living space. I came up with some inconsistencies in the numbers. I guess inconsistency is not the right word. Just different from what I was picturing.Doing the math here 10,000 ft. / 250 Habbles = 40 ft. height per Habble. Note this also includes the thickness of the floor+ceiling.
But then we have:This must mean that the Habbles are not all the same height. I guess it makes sense that Habble Morning is the biggest, since that is where the seat of government is.
Anyway, back to topic...
A Habble has about 2000 acres (3.14 mi^2). Knnn's numbers are good about farming. on Traditional sustainable farms, you can feed each person on 4 acres, but with vats and hydroponics, I believe that it makes sense that you could get a higher density yield. Especially since they are not necessarily growing the same inefficient crops and animals. Also, since you are not restricted to solar surface area, you can potentially stack those hydroponics and vats vertically and get a much denser yield per acre from that as well. After all, in the habble light for the crops would be coming from crystals.
Anyway, fun to think about.
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Also, their animal protein takes up about 0% of their grain crops since it's grown in vats
And I think Morning is the top level, which would make it the only one that has a roof instead of a ceiling. That could explain the height difference. There were also several comments about how Morning and Landing were way more populated than most habbles are
KeyMasterOfGozer:
I would like to hear from Jim if there is any inter-habble transportation besides Airships. Any stairs or elevator style lifts between floors.
One could imagine a vertical train where the cars would stack with the floors of the cars being vertically the same distance as between habble floors. At the top, the car flips around and becomes the car going down in a second elevator shaft (both shafts could be outside the habble proper). If you need to go up, you get in one side; down in the other. It could stop for 1 minute at each habble. Would take maybe 6 hours to get from bottom to top. Maybe even faster it you stopped like an airport train. Like 10 seconds at each stop for foot traffic. You could have a second set of elevators that stop for longer to load cargo for a slow, but steady flow of cargo.
Brightbane:
--- Quote from: KeyMasterOfGozer on October 18, 2015, 02:04:54 AM ---I would like to hear from Jim if there is any inter-habble transportation besides Airships. Any stairs or elevator style lifts between floors.
One could imagine a vertical train where the cars would stack with the floors of the cars being vertically the same distance as between habble floors. At the top, the car flips around and becomes the car going down in a second elevator shaft (both shafts could be outside the habble proper). If you need to go up, you get in one side; down in the other. It could stop for 1 minute at each habble. Would take maybe 6 hours to get from bottom to top. Maybe even faster it you stopped like an airport train. Like 10 seconds at each stop for foot traffic. You could have a second set of elevators that stop for longer to load cargo for a slow, but steady flow of cargo.
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As far as I'm aware there are 4 staircases spaced around each level so you would have to walk the entire way.
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: Brightbane on October 18, 2015, 03:03:36 AM ---As far as I'm aware there are 4 staircases spaced around each level so you would have to walk the entire way.
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Yeah, it's possible to walk from habble to habble, but there are tolls/taxes for each level you pass. Walking is slow and expensive, hence the group using an airship to get down to Habble Landing. It's also why Habble Landing has so much money to throw around on wooden buildings. About 70% of inter-habble trade comes through their airship port (I think I remember that figure correctly, I know it was a huge chunk). Any habble that wants to send goods to a far away habble can save money by skipping directly to Habble Landing for a smaller fee.
Habble Morning is the top habble since it has an airship platform and Habble Landing is remarkable for being the only habble that has managed to set up a third access point to a spire besides the bottom level and the top level.
knnn:
--- Quote from: Brightbane on October 18, 2015, 03:03:36 AM ---As far as I'm aware there are 4 staircases spaced around each level so you would have to walk the entire way.
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The Auroran marines managed to get to Landing through the ducts. Since I doubt they all managed to get to the duct on a specific level I think this means that they managed to move between the habbles through the vents. To me this implies that there might be secondary routes between the habbles. If big enough, these could be official secondary routes between habbles. Even if not official, I would expect black market goods to go through here in an attempt to get around fees/taxes.
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