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He Couldn't Lose [SG Spoilers]
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on June 22, 2015, 03:10:21 PM ---Not necessarily, Archangels have cosmic levels of power as well but they aren't mantle wielders. They too have underlings of lesser versions of themselves. Granted they didn't create them themselves but still.
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I submit that we dont really know /what/ angels are, beyond that they are uniquely made of pure soul. For all we know all mantles are just the discarded Grace of now fallen angels.
Actually, now that I say it, that would make a certain amount of sense; if "power has purpose" because it was the Purpose of an angel that is no longer performing, and so the entire current system is built of substitutes grown from the mortal population, empowered with the cast-off Purposes...
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on June 22, 2015, 03:14:45 PM ---Mantles have to go somewhere. It's WOJ that there are far fewer big D Dragons around than there used to be. If they were mantles, this wouldn't be the case -- the mantles would have gone to a suitable host (those little d dragons, perhaps).
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Two, in fact. A recent one said their were three before Michael did his St. George impression, and only Ferrovax and Pyrovax(sp?) are left
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 22, 2015, 05:21:34 PM ---I submit that we dont really know /what/ angels are, beyond that they are uniquely made of pure soul. For all we know all mantles are just the discarded Grace of now fallen angels.
Actually, now that I say it, that would make a certain amount of sense; if "power has purpose" because it was the Purpose of an angel that is no longer performing, and so the entire current system is built of substitutes grown from the mortal population, empowered with the cast-off Purposes...
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Which sorta gives automatic deference to the idea TWG is and was the be all, end all since everything began. Something that is very much in doubt as it pertains to Power, Purpose and life in general in the DV.
Phariah:
I dunno. I do not look at Dragons the same as gods or powerful fae. they seem to be more a force of nature imho. no mantle just power much as angels are just souls.
UncommonSense:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 20, 2015, 04:23:42 PM ---Yes, but in Changes Odin was using his Spear (presumably Odin's mythic spear Gungnir) /as/ a wizards staff. It would appeal to me for harry to mount the spear of destiny on his staff, giving an upgrade to both. Its always been the point and not the shaft that was important in the histories, but if the shaft were an enchanted Wizards staff (especially the muiltpurpose, layered version he had in SG) it could be all kinds of fun.
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Yeah, but an imposing guy walking around with a large stick, is a cosplay enthusiast. An imposing guy walking around with a large spear will attract police attention.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: UncommonSense on June 22, 2015, 05:49:52 PM ---Yeah, but an imposing guy walking around with a large stick, is a cosplay enthusiast. An imposing guy walking around with a large spear will attract police attention.
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In the sage words of Michael Carpenter: "[Harry] destroys buildings, Fights monsters openly in the streets of the city, works with the police, shows up in newspapers, advertises in the phone book, and rides Dinosaurs down Michigan Avenue, and [you] think that [he] works in the shadows? Be reasonable."
;D
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