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He Couldn't Lose [SG Spoilers]
Foxed:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on July 06, 2015, 02:06:39 PM ---Not just Ivy's knowledge, but also how she became the Archive. In Death Masks, she says that when her mother gave birth, she went into a persistent vegetative state, and that that was how the Archive always passed from one to another -- at the new Archive's birth. In Small Favor, the story's completely different -- that Ivy's mother killed herself while still pregnant, that the Archive passes upon the death of the previous Archive, and Ivy's situation is wholly different and unprecedented.
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Sooo... is there WOJ that this was a mistake, or are we assuming?
Because Small Favor was about preventing the Archive from becoming corrupted, but what if someone wrote down some malicious code that actually rewrote Ivy's memories?
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: Foxed on July 06, 2015, 03:01:12 PM ---Sooo... is there WOJ that this was a mistake, or are we assuming?
Because Small Favor was about preventing the Archive from becoming corrupted, but what if someone wrote down some malicious code that actually rewrote Ivy's memories?
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Pretty sure it is a confirmed ret-con. As for messing with the Archive with malicious code...she's not actually a computer she just gets digital info. And even if it could effect her she would instantly know the remedies to corrupted code too anyway.
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: Foxed on July 06, 2015, 03:01:12 PM ---Sooo... is there WOJ that this was a mistake, or are we assuming?
Because Small Favor was about preventing the Archive from becoming corrupted, but what if someone wrote down some malicious code that actually rewrote Ivy's memories?
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There's a WoJ that most of what Ivy tells about her purpose is smoke and mirrors since she's running one side of the Oblivion War. That might extend to her background.
As far as general inconsistencies with the series go, Serack made a huge reference post a while back. Some things Jim has admitted are mistakes, but some things the beta readers caught that Jim left in on purpose.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Foxed on July 06, 2015, 03:01:12 PM ---Sooo... is there WOJ that this was a mistake, or are we assuming?
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I dont particularly think so myself, I chalk most of it up to her simply not going into all of her most personal details with a man she'd just met (and only in an official capacity), and to The Council being less that perfectly accurate with modern definitions of Death (a Wide and Grey spectrum in the DV, by all accounts). If, for example, Ivy's mother tried to kill herself but only managed Brain-Dead instead of All-dead, then both Ivy's description and the Council's tactical assessment would be accurate.
As far as WOJ, the closest I know of is that he did say he'd intended fro her to be a one-off character, but decided to give her a bigger role after. But That doesnt actually qualify as a Retcon to me, rather I just call that Story Development.
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: Quantus on July 06, 2015, 03:24:22 PM ---As far as WOJ, the closest I know of is that he did say he'd intended fro her to be a one-off character, but decided to give her a bigger role after. But That doesnt actually qualify as a Retcon to me, rather I just call that Story Development.
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Going from, 'my mother passed the mantle down to me as a result of my birth which left her as a shell' vs 'my mom resented having me as a teen and decided to kill herself' seems like a pretty serious fork in the road to not be considered a ret-con.
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