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He Couldn't Lose [SG Spoilers]
knnn:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on July 02, 2015, 01:49:32 AM ---When it comes to Hecate we've already got three 'conflicting' notions. First Welcome to the Jungle has her ascending this way from a human, or thereabouts iirc. Then Bob offhandedly mentions in DM or BR about big dormant Gods who are still around and brings up Hecate. Now we have SG which has of course given rise to the idea that she is an aspect of power surrounding the six Queens of Faerie, possibly sacrificed on the Table. So...its all conjecture now anyway. Some seem more likely than others.
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^this^. In addition, you've got to remember that it's Bob who states that Hecate used an ascension ritual in Welcome to the Jungle. Given that in GP he seems to think she is currently dormant, I wonder how much we can truly rely on his assertions.
megarows:
Missed that DM ref. That's definitely a contradiction between DM and the common reading of SG. And I am so not going there with some time travel or mirror universe thing. WttJ doesn't contradict either.
I think Bob just gets kicked every time the lore "evolves" in newer books. (Knights of the Blackened Denarius?)
peregrine:
I never thought that Hecate was killed on the table, but rather that she somehow split/was split into the assorted Queens. The triad aspect seems much stronger than you'd think if it was something as simple as a power grab.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: megarows on July 02, 2015, 03:27:26 AM ---Missed that DM ref. That's definitely a contradiction between DM and the common reading of SG. And I am so not going there with some time travel or mirror universe thing. WttJ doesn't contradict either.
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Also keep in mind that Hecate was a Triple Goddess, and so could have easily been the "proto-Queens" in some regard, having already been split that far, so that the only "modern" change is that they/she further split into Summer/Winter halves, presumably when they took over The Gates and thus needed the current system of Checks and Balances. Granted I dont know how easily it will be to reconcile that with Mother Winter's Moirai role. But then we have proof that one entity can be multiple deities, so it's not too crazy.
namkcas:
--- Quote ---If you're interested in the lore here, I think reading Into the Jungle would be relevant to your interest
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I don't read any of it. I listen to audiobooks, which makes almost no sense with comics. My take on the way things go in terms of relevance:
1 - WoJ: However, they tend to be quite fae-like and often not specific.
2 - Novels: Later is better than earlier. There are some number of retcons and changes to things.
3 - Short Stories: Most of them seem to be more "fun" than part of the lore. Mistakes can be made.
4 - Comics: See 3.
5 - TV Show: Well it has to go somewhere.
6 - Fan Fiction/Speculation: What I am trying to say with all the work that we do, it can all be wiped out by one piece of verbage from JB. There are quite a large number of theories about different things. Many of them directly contradict one another AND have ways of tying to the lore. There are things that will likely never be reconciled. Will we ever find out who fixed LC? Who ran Harry off the road? What was the grand plot behind the attack on AT? I have theories on all of them, but none of them can be proven. For example, we recently discussed Maggie spending her summer vacation on DR (which I still don't know where Quantus got that nugget from). EG and I were discussing why Maggie might not be affected by the bad vibes. I see where that makes sense from an author's standpoint, but struggle to find a way for it to come out of what has been written about DR.
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