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The Fourth Holy Sword
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: Bergi on April 21, 2015, 04:13:39 PM ---About one of the swords "talking" to Harry i can't remember either.
About the Hellsword yes i mean Morgana's, it is one of those things still shrouded into much mystery.
And another point are the warden swords, they too are still not much explained. But i always had the impression that they were something that dates back to Merlin running around with a sword and somehow was created after his retreat. About the changing numbers of swords i don't have a problem with this, they are just something like power plugs one or two more or less are not important but too many would be bad. Maybe the knowledge about creating those swords makes you leader of the wardens, where Luccio hasn't found anyone worth it up to now.
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Just seems like more trouble than its worth to deny the Council a vital and valuable tool, especially when they were at war, if the knowledge was able to be passed down. Since it wasn't its more logical that it was a skill unique to Luccio.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on April 21, 2015, 02:17:41 PM ---Its not about a different read, its about not having the faintest memory such a moment existed.
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--- Quote ---I seized the hilt of Fidelacchius from where the Sword had fallen. As my fingers closed around the weapon I realized several points of cold logic, as if having them explained to me by a calm, rational, wise old man who was utterly unperturbed by my rage.
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It is not actually proof but I think it is pretty suggestive.
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: Arjan on April 21, 2015, 06:01:29 PM ---It is not actually proof but I think it is pretty suggestive.
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The key phrase there being 'I realized'. So while I think the Sword's presence gave him some measure of calm and steadied his nerve certainly, be that an inherent trait of the blade or Harry's own subconscious association with its power, but the blade itself didn't spell out the insight...he just got put in a better frame of mind to hash out what he already knew logically but his rage was clouding it.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on April 21, 2015, 06:12:34 PM ---The key phrase there being 'I realized'. So while I think the Sword's presence gave him some measure of calm and steadied his nerve certainly, be that an inherent trait of the blade or Harry's own subconscious association with its power, but the blade itself didn't spell out the insight...he just got put in a better frame of mind to hash out what he already knew logically but his rage was clouding it.
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You can read it like that.
But the "as if" was far too detailed for just a realisation and if you combine that with how magic seems to work in the dresdenverse, how balance seems to work. How everything is not spelled out and how the swords often enough seem to have a will of their own....
And angels are not known for their long chats giving valuable information. The angel in the sword is operating as expected, giving enough room to human free will.
It could have been a glympse of something more. Jim does not always spells these things out.
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: Arjan on April 21, 2015, 06:24:40 PM ---You can read it like that.
But the "as if" was far too detailed for just a realisation and if you combine that with how magic seems to work in the dresdenverse, how balance seems to work. How everything is not spelled out and how the swords often enough seem to have a will of their own....
And angels are not known for their long chats giving valuable information. The angel in the sword is operating as expected, giving enough room to human free will.
It could have been a glympse of something more. Jim does not always spells these things out.
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True enough, but 'as if' could just as easily be that calm voice in your head that always seems to get ignored...and the Sword gave him peace of mind to hear it...rather than an external voice. After all, he isn't a Knight, even if the Sword could 'communicate' in some way, or an angel uses it as a channel, there was nothing to balance out there. I don't see how they would be allowed to just up and 'give' Harry insight. Nor do I see the Blades being capable of instilling direct, personalized thought process other than perhaps to be a calming force which helps one naturally clear their mind.
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